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#3490063 - 12/08/13 06:23 AM .223 v/s 22-250
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I had a Howa .223 last year and honestly I just got mad and sold it when getting ammo was such an impossibility.

The reason I went with .223 was because of ammo avaliabilty and cost savings.

I had a 22-250 in my hands yesterday and was getting ready to say, this is what I want.

Then the kid said I bought a .308 because you can get premium hunting ammo OR you can get cheaper paper punching ammo.

I thought about it and said give me the .223

I do know one thing, the next hysteria won't affect me near as much because I WILL be buying ammo on a weekly basis for it.

So, did I choose the right caliber? \:D
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#3490080 - 12/08/13 06:35 AM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: RUGER]
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It depends on what you want to do.

I have both. I've had a 22-250 for 30+ years and it's a great long range shooting caliber and in that dept it will out shoot a 223 any day of the week.

But ever having said that I also bought a new 223 myself this year because I wanted something different.

Both will do the job much father than I can shoot so you did good as long as you keep some ammo on hand.
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#3490104 - 12/08/13 06:55 AM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: Wildcat]
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Plenty of .223 ammo available now
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#3490140 - 12/08/13 07:23 AM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: EastTNHunter]
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Well I lean toward a 22-250 in a bolt rifle and a .223 in the AR.
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#3490755 - 12/08/13 01:43 PM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: Plateau Hunter]
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22-250 is by far my favorite caliber, but I have both \:\) as far as varmints go, in TN you won't shoot far enough to make a difference I dont think
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#3490767 - 12/08/13 01:50 PM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: Rockhound]
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Both are great but I prefer my .223. It shoots great out to 300 and ammo is easy to find and cheap (finally).
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#3490797 - 12/08/13 02:09 PM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: CATCHDAWG]
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Makes no difference unless your shooting very long shots....like more that THREE football fields. I put a heavy barrel on my 223 and is shoots way better than I can. The trick with the 223 is bullet selection. My 16 in barrel wont shoot good long range groups with the lighter bullets. You feed it 70 grain black hills ammo and its deadly!
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#3490802 - 12/08/13 02:17 PM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: Fordman]
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22-250 here. 40 grain V- Max a little over 4000 fps is simply amazing. Dead game before you can let off the trigger.
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#3490807 - 12/08/13 02:23 PM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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I remember YEARS ago I had a 22-250 and shot a groundhog with it.
I remember seeing a burst of red in the sight picture of the scope before the recoil hit enough to make me lose sight of the target.
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#3490840 - 12/08/13 02:52 PM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: RUGER]
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There is nothing wrong with the 223, but once you pick up a 22-250 you won't go back. I have both and 22-250 is by far my favorite. It will out shoot the 223 any day and do it further. I love seeing a P-dog blow up when a 55gr. out of a 22-50 hits it.
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#3499214 - 12/13/13 04:09 PM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: KPH]
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Used to handload 52gr hps for my 22-250, it was deadly. Best shot I made was measured as best we could at 535yds. Waited until he stood up and dropped it in on him.(whistle pig) Killed a mangy fox at almost the same distance. My buddy at the time was using a 222mag, he could not shoot distance with me. Sold it when hunting property got hard to find.
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#3499282 - 12/13/13 05:14 PM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: Timber Ghost]
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if you plan on shooting a lot and you don't have money to burn, then yes, you made the right call. Id rather have a barrel full of 223 than a shoebox full of 22 250.

it will kill a ground hog and a prairie dog.


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#3500078 - 12/14/13 11:15 AM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: BigPete357]
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 Originally Posted By: BigPete357
if you plan on shooting a lot and you don't have money to burn, then yes, you made the right call. Id rather have a barrel full of 223 than a shoebox full of 22 250.

it will kill a ground hog and a prairie dog.




and a many coyote, fox and bobcat
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#3500083 - 12/14/13 11:18 AM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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 Originally Posted By: TeamMainStreet
22-250 here. 40 grain V- Max a little over 4000 fps is simply amazing. Dead game before you can let off the trigger.



i use a 22-250 0n a lot of the more open farms we call, but have noticed that if you are saving pelts, you better go 55 grains and up. also, wind plays havoc on 40 grainers, although that is rarely a problem since we shot most of our dogs at 60 yards and closing
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#3500737 - 12/14/13 08:49 PM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: redblood]
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I like shooting armadillos with those 4000 fps 40 grainers \:\) talk about red mist
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#3500849 - 12/14/13 10:08 PM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: Rockhound]
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Ha red blood, I ain't saving pelts and I'm in east tn. A 60 yd shot is a long shot in most places around here.

Edited by TeamMainStreet (12/14/13 10:09 PM)
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#3500869 - 12/14/13 10:22 PM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: Rockhound]
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I shoot prairie dogs with a 5.56/.223 bolt gun or an AR out to 400 yards or further. I generically use 50gr V-max over CFE 233 or TAC, but for really long range shots- out past 500 or so I shoot 69 or 77 grain BTHP SMK's, Blitz Kings, or Nosler Custom Competitions.
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#3510684 - 12/21/13 05:58 PM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: KPH]
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I've shot both. I've owned a .223 for about 20 years and like it. I've handloaded 40-64 gr. in it and found a lot of good loads. The .22-250 shoots a little flatter and means more range. Its just whatever a hunter needs I guess. I've got by with a .223 just fine.
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#3519431 - 12/28/13 08:59 AM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: KPH]
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I have both but prefer .223....with a 1-9" twist i can shoot heavier bullets if i want to. Most 22-250's have 1-12 and are designed for lighter bullets. I've killed yotes at 375-400 bang flop!
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#3519433 - 12/28/13 09:00 AM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: OKSTATE]
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Hornady 53gr superformance .223 are nice in my gun for factory loaded ammo.
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#3521909 - 12/30/13 06:47 AM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: KPH]
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Check the ballistics the .22-250 is a little faster but not by much. Either one is a good choice for varmints.
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#3522018 - 12/30/13 08:11 AM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: jbhtn]
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The 22-250 is about 600 fps faster at the muzzle with a 55g bullet which is the typical bullet weight used in these cartridges. That is pretty significant imo. The .223 works well for coyotes but the 22-250 is a noticeably bigger hammer.
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#3522132 - 12/30/13 09:12 AM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: Plateau Hunter]
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Very noticeable IMO

The 22-250 is my favorite caliber, and IMO is on the line of being a "small caliber"
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#3524340 - 12/31/13 03:12 PM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: Rockhound]
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I say if you don't have either, everybody should buy a .223/5.56 AR first...then, if you find you need more range, go get a 22/250. Bottom line is - I think ERRbody should own an AR...if only to tick off the Libs...ha
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#3528575 - 01/03/14 06:42 AM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: Yeppers]
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I ran averages on the Hogdgon website. I checked the maximum loads for their muzzle velocity with 50 gr bullets. This is what I shoot out of a Harrington Richardson Handy Rifle .223. There were 14 loads listed for the .223 that averaged 3343 fps. There were 17 loads listed for the .22-250 that averaged 3813 fps. I have to say that is pretty impressive. I love my single shot .223 but I may be in the market for another rifle to add to the collection.
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#3528591 - 01/03/14 06:58 AM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: OKSTATE]
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No ar's in 22-250. I've shot em all, and shot 1000 yrds. match and I like a follow up without losing my sight picture. Thats why I perfer the Ar .223,204,6.5,6.8 over other great rounds. I likey the double tap if needed.
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#3528739 - 01/03/14 08:47 AM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: Yotekiller011]
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 Originally Posted By: Yotekiller011
No ar's in 22-250. I've shot em all, and shot 1000 yrds. match and I like a follow up without losing my sight picture. Thats why I perfer the Ar .223,204,6.5,6.8 over other great rounds. I likey the double tap if needed.


You can get a 22-250 AR but you have to get a whole new platform
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#3545056 - 01/13/14 04:47 PM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: Rockhound]
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Which is best depends on what you intend to use it for.

I look at the 22-250 as a serious varmint rifle for long range stationary targets. It really stood tall in the days when we had groundhogs ringing every bean field. The shots were long and you needed every bit of velocity you could get to flatten the trajectory with so small a target. Now switch targets and go to prairie dogs where you shoot hundreds of shots in a day and the flat trajectory of the 22-250 still amazes but all of a sudden you have an overheated barrel and if you don't show some serious discipline, you have a ruined barrel in just one day of shooting.

This is where the 223 has the advantage. Burning 25 grains of powder vs. 35 to 40 for the 22-250, you can fire a fair amount more shots before overheating a 223 barrel. If you are shooting varmints that you call in, most shots are going to be close and at a moving target so the trajectory advantage the 22-250 has is lost there. However, you sure aren't going to overheat a barrel with called coyotes so if you want them more "deader" than a 223 will do, go for the 22-250. \:\)

Personally I prefer the 22-250 because I cut my rifle shooting teeth on 22 centerfires in the days of abundant groundhogs. I like 'em fast and flat and as a result have a 22-250, 220 Swift and 22 Cheetah MkII. Also have a 221 Fireball for my walking around varmint buster. Guess it's my best coyote calling rifle.

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#3548844 - 01/16/14 10:36 AM Re: .223 v/s 22-250 [Re: RUGER]
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 Originally Posted By: RUGER
I had a Howa .223 last year and honestly I just got mad and sold it when getting ammo was such an impossibility.

The reason I went with .223 was because of ammo avaliabilty and cost savings.

I had a 22-250 in my hands yesterday and was getting ready to say, this is what I want.

Then the kid said I bought a .308 because you can get premium hunting ammo OR you can get cheaper paper punching ammo.

I thought about it and said give me the .223

I do know one thing, the next hysteria won't affect me near as much because I WILL be buying ammo on a weekly basis for it.

So, did I choose the right caliber? \:D


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