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#3604657 - 03/02/14 04:38 PM Re: New Field-judging buck age examples [Re: Greg M]
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That's great information BSK. Thanks for the presentation. I'm curious how accurate you are once the buck is on the ground after you pull the jawbone and analyze TWR to a picture or field judgement. Also how difficult is it to age a buck once he's on the ground from body characteristics alone especially the older age classes 3.5, 4.5 and 5.5? While antlers can vary greatly within an age cohort, does mass come into play when aging?
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#3606574 - 03/04/14 08:05 AM Re: New Field-judging buck age examples [Re: fairchaser]
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 Originally Posted By: fairchaser
That's great information BSK. Thanks for the presentation. I'm curious how accurate you are once the buck is on the ground after you pull the jawbone and analyze TWR to a picture or field judgement.


Currently, 82% of the time my age estimate matches the teeth.


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Also how difficult is it to age a buck once he's on the ground from body characteristics alone especially the older age classes 3.5, 4.5 and 5.5?


I personally find I cannot do it. Once a buck is on the ground, he has lost the "stance" characteristics which define age.

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While antlers can vary greatly within an age cohort, does mass come into play when aging?


Only "on average," and that's not good enough. "On average" score increases with age as well, but score is far too variable between bucks to help in age-judging an individual.
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#3606732 - 03/04/14 10:25 AM Re: New Field-judging buck age examples [Re: BSK]
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Great info, thanks for posting it BSK!
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#3606890 - 03/04/14 12:50 PM Re: New Field-judging buck age examples [Re: BSK]
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[quote=BSKCurrently, 82% of the time my age estimate matches the teeth.


Thanks BSK. That's pretty darn good. Have you previewed the new aging software based on body characteristics? I'm wondering if it can beat 82%.

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#3607097 - 03/04/14 04:16 PM Re: New Field-judging buck age examples [Re: fairchaser]
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Not heard of the software. But I'm sure it does what I do--measures the length of the front legs in relation to the depth of the chest. That is the only proven numerical measurement that is accurate.
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#3619158 - 03/17/14 11:34 PM Re: New Field-judging buck age examples [Re: BSK]
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Thanks for a great presentation...I learned a lot...
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#3710868 - 07/15/14 12:42 PM Re: New Field-judging buck age examples [Re: gatodoc]
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This is like the 5th time I've read through this thread - and I take away something more each time - I don't think you can 'see' too many deer and I apply items from here to each deer I see - it's a very difficult thing to 'get good' at - if anyone ever really does -
thanks again Bryan -
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