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#3442607 - 11/08/13 04:53 PM Swabbing revisited
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Well, after finally having some time, to take my time, this afternoon, I got to methodically shoot my Muzzleloader. Using BH209, I've found that I get a nice 1.5" grouping ar 100 yds with 57.5 grains....and, by swabbing between shots. Just a spit patch, but nonetheless swabbing the barrel. It may not be necessary to swab between shots with the BH powder, but I apparently get better accuracy when I do. I started with a dry clean barrel, solvent cleaned and dry patched, and loaded my first load. It shot an inch high and an inch to the right @ 100 yds. Next shot, WO swabbing, was 2-1/2" high and an inch to the right, then, I decided i would swab the barrel, mostly bc of what I cleaned out of it from the last session, and the third shot was good ltr, and 1 inch high, right beside the first shot. About a 1-1/2" 3 shot group, that I think might have been a tad closer, had i swabbed the barrel after the first shot. Anyway, just thought I'd report on my new findings as I learn how my ML shoots with the bh powder.
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#3442617 - 11/08/13 05:00 PM Re: Swabbing revisited [Re: MUP]
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Oh, and this is the cva that shot better groups from a fouled barrel when using pyrodex before. I can shoot from a clean barrel with this ML now, accurately, and swab the barrel for the next shot and remain close. I'm now confident taking my shot if I get the opportunity.
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#3442638 - 11/08/13 05:13 PM Re: Swabbing revisited [Re: MUP]
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3 shots @ 100 yards with CVA Wolf, 100gr BH209, 250 Powerbelt Aerolite. No swabbing.


Not sure of the projectile you are using, but its very possible you need to change sabots or tinker with the powder charge to get it where you want it without the swabbing. The slight soot that BH209 leaves behind is apparently enough to affect your projectile to a point it does not get along with it.

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#3442663 - 11/08/13 05:29 PM Re: Swabbing revisited [Re: FrontierGander]
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I'm old school and will always swab the barrel between shots, the 30 sec it takes to run a patch gives me a lot of confidence. Interesting the different methods that some muzzys like to shoot good and the time and effort that gets put into finding it out. I have learned a lot in the last week.
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#3442667 - 11/08/13 05:31 PM Re: Swabbing revisited [Re: FrontierGander]
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If its shooting high its sealing better= more velocity.if it is consistant id change the scope & go with a dirty bore
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#3442675 - 11/08/13 05:36 PM Re: Swabbing revisited [Re: FrontierGander]
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Good luck storing your gun with a fouled bore. I sight in based off a clean bore.
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#3442678 - 11/08/13 05:40 PM Re: Swabbing revisited [Re: UTGrad]
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 Originally Posted By: UTGrad
Good luck storing your gun with a fouled bore. I sight in based off a clean bore.


Been doing it for 20+ years and no problem with accuracy when I do shoot it. When I do clean it, it will look just as good as the day I got it.
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#3442722 - 11/08/13 06:12 PM Re: Swabbing revisited [Re: TNDeerGuy]
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Thats the nice part, just run a couple DRY patches down the bore if shooting BH209 and 90% + of the fouling is actually removed and does not attract moisture/rust. I use birchwood casey 2 in 1 bore scrubber which cleans and prevents rust, first shot accuracy is right on the money. Come hunting season, i can hunt on a clean bore, knowing exactly where it will hit.

check this out, this is my new strikerfire and you will see exactly how it shoots on a clean bore @ 100 yards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWjhVFtbbX8

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#3442733 - 11/08/13 06:17 PM Re: Swabbing revisited [Re: TNDeerGuy]
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I still dont know if the third shot would have stayed close wo swabbing, but, after I did swab, it came back down with the first shot that was from a perfectly clean and dry barrel.

Projectiles are 260 gr lead, nothing fancy, with black sabots.
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#3442737 - 11/08/13 06:20 PM Re: Swabbing revisited [Re: MUP]
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what some guys have to learn is to give it 5 to 8 minutes between shots, let that barrel cool down. I've fired aprox 80 POUNDS of bh209 over the past 2 years and so ive got a bit of experience under the belt i guess you could say lol.
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