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#3433429 - 11/03/13 09:02 AM sidelock powder question
BIGB
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Just bought a CVA Hawken rifle from a member. Is Pyrodex RS what I am supposed to be shooting in this gun?
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#3433460 - 11/03/13 09:27 AM Re: sidelock powder question [Re: BIGB]
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yes or black powder, start with the caliber say 50 cal & start with 50g of powder, start sighting in & work your way up in 10g shots til accuracy stops or not over a max load,you will need to look that up as all are somewhat different. depending on the bullet you want to shoot you might not get past 80-90g before it starts throwing them out of a good group.
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#3434231 - 11/03/13 07:17 PM Re: sidelock powder question [Re: mike243]
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My 45 t/c Hawkins likes 70 gains of 3fff with a patched round ball
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#3434251 - 11/03/13 07:27 PM Re: sidelock powder question [Re: southernhunter]
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my T/C Renegade .50 likes 100 grains of FF black or Pyrodex RS with a 370 grain T/C maxi ball. Funny thing is it will shoot through the same holes with the lighter 275 grain T/C maxi hunter.

my little .45 T/C Cherokee likes 80 grains pushing a 240 grain maxi hunter or maxi ball.

Black powder or Proydex RS is what you need, you just got to play around a bit to see what your gun likes.
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#3434517 - 11/03/13 08:47 PM Re: sidelock powder question [Re: dg7080]
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pyrodex rs or pyrodex p will work just fine. I do prefer the real stuff as in Goex though. Pyrodex rs sometimes clogs up the powder channel and doesnt flow under the nipple, causing a misfire.
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#3434830 - 11/04/13 05:28 AM Re: sidelock powder question [Re: FrontierGander]
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Pyrodex RS will work better than Pyrodex P as the RS gives a better burn and more energy. I even shoot it thru my 50 cal. trapper pistol and it groups better thru it also. Here is some loads than I am currently using thru my 50 cal TC Hawkins - (these are Pyrodex RS loads) 70 grains with a 350 TC maxi hunter or 90 with the same bullet, 90 gives it a little more distance. I have also shot 100 and 90 with a Hornady great plains 385 grain bullets out of several different guns and had great performance. I am going to the range tomorrow to see how the TC Hawkins I use now works with a 275 grain TC maxi hunter and the 385 Hornady great plains bullet with a couple of different powder loads. If you need some info from how they do send me a PM and I will let you know how it works out.
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#3434867 - 11/04/13 06:28 AM Re: sidelock powder question [Re: Grill-n-man]
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I remember when pyrodex came on the market. Wasn't a fan of then nor am I one today. For me, real black powder is the way to go with a traditional style gun. It's a shame it's so hard to come by for newbies to the sport today.
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#3435112 - 11/04/13 09:00 AM Re: sidelock powder question [Re: Wobblyshot1]
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I agree Wobblshot1, its a shame the real black powder is so hard to find. The only reason I am shooting Pyrodex at the moment is cause all my local sources for the real stuff have quick stocking it.
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#3441335 - 11/07/13 07:29 PM Re: sidelock powder question [Re: dg7080]
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I shot it with 90 grains of the RS and a patched round ball not sure of the weight. It seemed to shoot a little high. Next time I load it I'll try 80. thanks for the input.
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#3441369 - 11/07/13 07:48 PM Re: sidelock powder question [Re: Grill-n-man]
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Uh, you are aware that pyrodex p gives MORE power/better burn since it is considered a 3f grade powder, where as rs would be 2f grade. 3F burns quicker and gives you more poop with less volume.

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Pyrodex RS will work better than Pyrodex P as the RS gives a better burn and more energy. I even shoot it thru my 50 cal. trapper pistol and it groups better thru it also. Here is some loads than I am currently using thru my 50 cal TC Hawkins - (these are Pyrodex RS loads) 70 grains with a 350 TC maxi hunter or 90 with the same bullet, 90 gives it a little more distance. I have also shot 100 and 90 with a Hornady great plains 385 grain bullets out of several different guns and had great performance. I am going to the range tomorrow to see how the TC Hawkins I use now works with a 275 grain TC maxi hunter and the 385 Hornady great plains bullet with a couple of different powder loads. If you need some info from how they do send me a PM and I will let you know how it works out.

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