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#3424740 - 10/28/13 08:17 PM Ripping Out Carpet?
monsterbuck07
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How big of a pain is this? Any tips? What tools are needed? Do I pop base boards off first? First time doing this laying down lamianate.
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#3424744 - 10/28/13 08:18 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: monsterbuck07]
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All you need is a Lab puppy about 6 months old.

Trust me.. I learned the hard way. \:\) Came home one day and has a solid 3ft x 3ft area where the carpet and padding were gone.

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#3424747 - 10/28/13 08:18 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: monsterbuck07]
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Cut it in 4 foot wide strips roll it up and haul it off
You do not need to take up the base boards.
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#3424761 - 10/28/13 08:22 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: Super8]
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 Originally Posted By: Super8
Cut it in 4 foot wide strips roll it up and haul it off
You do not need to take up the base boards.


Will I not need baseboards off to lay laminate?


Edited by monsterbuck07 (10/28/13 08:32 PM)
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#3424772 - 10/28/13 08:25 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: monsterbuck07]
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The staples in the pad are the hardest part. I use pliers. Cut it close and add shoe mold. If you have time and can replace any base that breaks. When you put the base back it will need to be caulked which will lead to painting the wall as well as the base.

Edited by Poor redneck (10/28/13 08:28 PM)
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#3424777 - 10/28/13 08:26 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: monsterbuck07]
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Start at a corner and pull lol..the tack strips are all around the baseboards u will need a pry bar or hammer for those. Like super8 said just cut it sections easy to carry out..I've done this more times than I care to remember. You don't need to take the base boards up maybe just the trim




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#3424781 - 10/28/13 08:28 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: NICHOLS3]
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You leave the laminate about 1/4" off the baseboard and when finished install shoe molding.
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#3424787 - 10/28/13 08:30 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: Super8]
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Dang, I am a rookie.

First what the heck, I thought the base board was the trim...

Second what in the heck is shoe molding? My cuts prob won't be perfect.
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#3424788 - 10/28/13 08:31 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: monsterbuck07]
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 Originally Posted By: monsterbuck07
 Originally Posted By: Super8
Cut it in 4 foot wide strips roll it up and haul it off
You do not need to take up the base boards.


Will I not need base boards off to lay laminate?


Baseboards for carpet are set higher than for laminate. You can leave it, just make sure you get 1/4 round big enough to cover the gap. If you don't do that you might end up needing to pull it. If you do pull the baseboard make sure and cut the caulk so you don't tear the paper on the sheetrock. Since the new baseboard will be set lower you will have a gap to top of the old baseboard line you pulled off, you can buy a taller baseboard to put down to cover the old caulk line.

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#3424794 - 10/28/13 08:32 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: Super8]
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You also cut the door jambs just enough with a jamb saw so the laminate fits under the door jambs.
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#3424799 - 10/28/13 08:33 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: Super8]
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Measure twice cut once. LOL
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#3424810 - 10/28/13 08:36 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: monsterbuck07]
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 Originally Posted By: monsterbuck07
 Originally Posted By: Super8
Cut it in 4 foot wide strips roll it up and haul it off
You do not need to take up the base boards.


Will I not need base boards off to lay laminate?


Nope. You will want to finish off the baseboards with a quarter round type molding after your flooring is down. If the base is painted. Prime and paint the quarter round before you install it. Countersink your nail holes, fill with wood filler, let dry, lightly sand and finish off with a second coat of paint. It will look sharp!
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#3424824 - 10/28/13 08:42 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: Super8]
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 Originally Posted By: Super8
Measure twice cut once. LOL


For sure

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#3424834 - 10/28/13 08:47 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: Phil1979]
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Really you could get by without measuring if you set your piece against the base board and mark where it needs to be cut. Just make sure all cut ends face the wall so your joints butt together.
Before you finish a room you will be an expert.
As for me.... I hope I dont ever have to lay another floor did it for 10 years. Tile,Wood,Carpet,Vinyl,Shower pans.. had enough
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#3424838 - 10/28/13 08:49 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: Super8]
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Welp, this is not sounding good for me. All I know is I have 1600 sg ft of lami nate and the padding that goes under it. I am scared to deathe to screw up haha
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#3424840 - 10/28/13 08:51 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: monsterbuck07]
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Its easy,
Go to YOU TUBE and watch a video or two

Type in You tube How to lay laminate flooring
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#3424845 - 10/28/13 08:51 PM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: Super8]
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It just hard work when you do it everyday. But you save a lot of money doing it yourself.
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#3425231 - 10/29/13 06:06 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: Super8]
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Looked on YouTube....maybe I can do this.
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#3425252 - 10/29/13 06:24 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: monsterbuck07]
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 Originally Posted By: monsterbuck07
Looked on YouTube....maybe I can do this.


You can totally do this! Take it from me - I had to teach myself and you sound like me; I'm not a "Mr. Fix It" type. It's not bad, door jams can be a little more labor intensive, but then again some trim guys are smart enough to cut those high as well so the folks that built your home might have already cut them high enough since there was carpet in the room. Still, I would have a little hand saw made for cutting door jams handy (ask for it at Lowes or Home Depot and they'll know what you need). Just don't get in a hurry cutting your door jams and try to make a good straight cut - even if it takes a little while.

After you've got the floor laid then you can worry about cutting shoe mold or quarter round. For me, that is the most difficult part. I actually found someone to cut and nail my quarter round in place for me on CraigsList for like $150. For me, it was well worth the money paid not to have to try to cut the angles and cope the trim myself. I probably gave up too quickly, but my time and stress was worth $150 then.


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#3425257 - 10/29/13 06:35 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: BlountArrow]
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Yea I have done it before. It turned out decent but I began noticing flaws in it. We moved and I found a guy that laid the floor and 1/4 round, about 450 ft, for like 400 bucks. They did a great job and it was worth it to me. Also he saved me almost 200 over lumber liquidators price. So for basically 200 bucks I had my floor laid. Well worth it!
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#3425408 - 10/29/13 08:10 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: TNReb]
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Okay, Hopefully in some kind of sequence:
1. Remove carpet. You can cut it in pieces, you can cut it & roll it up.

2. The stinking tack strips: remove with prybar, hammer, chisel. Run your hand across where the tack strip used to be to be sure none of the nail stubs remain. When you draw blood, break out chisel and hammer.

3. Clean the floor. Must be flat.

4. Get a straight edge-long(4-->6 feet)and drag across entire floor....Mine had two high places. If you find one, reference hammer and chisel.

5. If you had high spots, re-clean floor.

6. If you have low spots, you are supposed to fill it in, see Lowes or HD

7. I am assuming you have checked to see if room has runout; i.e., not square. This is where a shoe can save the project.
After a turrible experience I now measure, use graph paper, figure out every measurement before I break out my saw.

8. All flooring should be in a minimum 4 step pattern. That means the seams do not line up until every 4th board Means first board is 12 inches long, next row first board is 24, etc.

9. I cut and place every board for a trial fitting. This is one way to get cut ends stuck under the baseboard. I then NUMBER the back of every board with the row number then the board number, like a fraction.

10. I have my wife or kids hand me boards as I move up and down the rows.

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#3425430 - 10/29/13 08:20 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: DaveB]
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 Originally Posted By: DaveB
Okay, Hopefully in some kind of sequence:
1. Remove carpet. You can cut it in pieces, you can cut it & roll it up.

2. The stinking tack strips: remove with prybar, hammer, chisel. Run your hand across where the tack strip used to be to be sure none of the nail stubs remain. When you draw blood, break out chisel and hammer.

3. Clean the floor. Must be flat.

4. Get a straight edge-long(4-->6 feet)and drag across entire floor....Mine had two high places. If you find one, reference hammer and chisel.

5. If you had high spots, re-clean floor.

6. If you have low spots, you are supposed to fill it in, see Lowes or HD

7. I am assuming you have checked to see if room has runout; i.e., not square. This is where a shoe can save the project.
After a turrible experience I now measure, use graph paper, figure out every measurement before I break out my saw.

8. All flooring should be in a minimum 4 step pattern. That means the seams do not line up until every 4th board Means first board is 12 inches long, next row first board is 24, etc.

9. I cut and place every board for a trial fitting. This is one way to get cut ends stuck under the baseboard. I then NUMBER the back of every board with the row number then the board number, like a fraction.

10. I have my wife or kids hand me boards as I move up and down the rows.


Wow Dave, glad I didn't read your post before doing mine 3 weeks ago or I would have punted \:D !

The moving furniture/carpet removal/tack strip removal/staple removal is the hardest part. You will need to find a place to take your carpet. Our recycling center wouldn't take it.

We removed our baseboards, because my wife was repainting the rooms. Saved us not having to buy additional moulding.

Also, the guy I bought it from talked me into doing it continuously through the hallways and into the bedrooms without transition moulding. A little more tedious with making cuts, but not that bad, and it looks great.

You will get tired/frustrated/mad/hot etc. but you will save a lot of money and the wife will owe you big time ;\) \:D !

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#3427038 - 10/30/13 12:04 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: monsterbuck07]
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 Originally Posted By: monsterbuck07
How big of a pain is this? Any tips? What tools are needed? Do I pop base boards off first? First time doing this laying down lamianate.


So easy, Mrs. TAFKAP could do itů..she did the carpet in the last house we had.

Rolling it up into manageable pieces & dragging them outside is the worst part.
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#3427039 - 10/30/13 12:06 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: Phil1979]
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 Originally Posted By: Phil1979
 Originally Posted By: monsterbuck07
 Originally Posted By: Super8
Cut it in 4 foot wide strips roll it up and haul it off
You do not need to take up the base boards.


Will I not need base boards off to lay laminate?


Baseboards for carpet are set higher than for laminate. You can leave it, just make sure you get 1/4 round big enough to cover the gap. If you don't do that you might end up needing to pull it. If you do pull the baseboard make sure and cut the caulk so you don't tear the paper on the sheetrock. Since the new baseboard will be set lower you will have a gap to top of the old baseboard line you pulled off, you can buy a taller baseboard to put down to cover the old caulk line.


Frankly, pull the baseboards up. For one, the trim around carpet seems to be only to hold it down. You'll likely find that the baseboards on your wood floors will look strangely undersized. Couple that with some 1/2" or 3/4" quarter-round, you'll have some goofy looking trim.

It'll cost a bit more money, but putting some 4" trim moulding and some 1/2" quarter round will look fantastic. That's how we did it in our last house, and it made a dramatic difference.
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#3427044 - 10/30/13 12:08 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: Super8]
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 Originally Posted By: Super8
You also cut the door jambs just enough with a jamb saw so the laminate fits under the door jambs.


These side-cutting jamb saws are sweet. I've worn the teeth off mine using it on all sorts of other projects.

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#3427142 - 10/30/13 06:11 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: TAFKAP]
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Make sure to leave at least 3/8" expansion room around all edges. Do not cut laminate tight to anything.
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#3427196 - 10/30/13 07:27 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: Mudbone]
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I got one of these babies for the door jambs and to level out any high spots in the floor.



$45 from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0073HDD66/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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#3427210 - 10/30/13 07:37 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: PalsPal]
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For some stupid reason, there was carpet in one of our bathrooms of the house. When our toilet began leaking, of course it got the carpet wet and I decided I would just rip it all up and put down something else. I will say this...that ranked up there with one of the nastiest jobs I have ever done. The people that lived in the house before, must not have been able to pee inside the dang bowl...and that's all I'm gonna say about that. I've gutted many gut shot deer that didn't come close to the smell or dry heave factor as what that carpet gave me.

I started out with one of those handsaws pictured above...and quickly found out I hated it. I went and got some laminate floor blades for my jigsaw and never looked back.

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#3427220 - 10/30/13 07:46 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: Crow Terminator]
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 Originally Posted By: Crow Terminator
For some stupid reason, there was carpet in one of our bathrooms of the house. When our toilet began leaking, of course it got the carpet wet and I decided I would just rip it all up and put down something else. I will say this...that ranked up there with one of the nastiest jobs I have ever done.


My wife was pretty diligent about cleaning our carpet, and we were shocked at how dirty it was.

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#3427272 - 10/30/13 08:14 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: PalsPal]
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 Originally Posted By: PalsPal
I got one of these babies for the door jambs and to level out any high spots in the floor.




This will be your best friend. And a bunch of new razor blades. Just got finished tearing out all the carpet in our house (1600 sq ft) for a laminate install. Like said before cut carpet into small manageable pieces. Change out the razor blade often, check for tacks and nails. I took a shop vac to the floor to get up the small stuff. I didn't lay the laminate but the guys that did said I did a real good job. Just take your time.

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#3427285 - 10/30/13 08:22 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: PalsPal]
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 Originally Posted By: PalsPal
I got one of these babies for the door jambs and to level out any high spots in the floor.



$45 from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0073HDD66/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

that's what i used on my project.
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#3427296 - 10/30/13 08:30 AM Re: Ripping Out Carpet? [Re: Brisco Darlin]
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I got mine from Harbor freight.

http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools...tool-60428.html

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