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#3411439 - 10/20/13 11:17 PM Re: Smoke out of breech area ok? [Re: Deer Assassin]
Tar12
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Thanks for the info. I was trying to figure out why you needed a spacer.lol I have only dealt with Savage builds...
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#3411464 - 10/21/13 01:28 AM Re: Smoke out of breech area ok? [Re: Tar12]
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I have had 2 barrels converted by Slufoot and both of them require then use of pliers or something to pry fired primer from plug..... Any ideals why this is???
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#3411471 - 10/21/13 02:26 AM Re: Smoke out of breech area ok? [Re: Roost 1]
SCAT
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 Originally Posted By: Roost 1
I have had 2 barrels converted by Slufoot and both of them require then use of pliers or something to pry fired primer from plug..... Any ideals why this is???


Because the primer has a step in its' OD. This step presses into the BP when you close the action to seal off the charge. Some people ream, dremel, etc. the BP ID to allow the primer to be removed by hand. While this is OK to a point, it leads to blast leakage around the primer and into the firing pin mechanism. I machined a strip of metal with a slot in the end to remove primers. This tool stays in my butt stock pouch along with fresh charges, primers, and projectiles.

On the Savage 10ML, the primer is captured by the bolt and is pulled out of the BP when the bolt is not in battery.
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#3411587 - 10/21/13 07:30 AM Re: Smoke out of breech area ok? [Re: SCAT]
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 Originally Posted By: CR500AFX
I don't know the history of your gun. Mine was converted by Slufoot, and a fine job he did. After several shots, the spacer he installed in my breech plug stuck to a primer and pulled out with the primer. I noticed it and reinstalled it without any further problems. It was really stuck to the end of the primer. I had to hold the primer with pliers and use a screwdriver to remove the spacer from it. Does yours have this spacer and if so is it missing? BTW, since the primer is headspaced I had Slufoot headspace a spare breech plug for me.

Also, if you are using teflon tape on your breech plug do not get any on the face of the plug that seats in the barrel as it will cause leaks and/or difficult removal. This was also mentioned to me by Slufoot.

Some disagree and/or don't understand, but when a Savage breech plug is installed in a gun that it has never been in before, it should be tightened to 10 ft lbs minimum to "marry" or "seat" the two surfaces. After the initial seating, resume normal plug installation procedures. Any time I install a new breech plug, I can feel it seating for the first time.


Thanks for the info. I'll snap a picture for viewing during lunch. Gun was converted by slufoot. It's only had 15 or so shots. I'm really not sure if it has a spacer or not, I have never noticed that. It is a very tight fit for primer requiring a removing tool. I did pick up some anti seize paste at Walmart. While I was waiting on the loc tite brand I picked up some Thompson Center.



Based on other's I assume a little blow by is ok?

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#3411642 - 10/21/13 08:32 AM Re: Smoke out of breech area ok? [Re: Tenn.Guy]
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#3411664 - 10/21/13 08:50 AM Re: Smoke out of breech area ok? [Re: Tenn.Guy]
Rubberduck270
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Sh!t the bed, did you use the whole jar or anti seize on your plug? You sir, own the greasiest breech plug I have ever seen.

Did it look like that when you put it on there or is it flowing out?
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#3411680 - 10/21/13 09:07 AM Re: Smoke out of breech area ok? [Re: Rubberduck270]
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 Originally Posted By: Rubberduck270
Sh!t the bed, did you use the whole jar or anti seize on your plug? You sir, own the greasiest breech plug I have ever seen.

Did it look like that when you put it on there or is it flowing out?


I completely agree!! It was new stuff I tried. It flowed out at as I tightened it.Possibly more has come out as I have shot. I dont plan on using that stuff anymore! I have shot it about 8-9 times with that anti sieze.

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#3411687 - 10/21/13 09:12 AM Re: Smoke out of breech area ok? [Re: Tenn.Guy]
Rubberduck270
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Whatever it is it isn't taking the heat at all. I'd flush that crap off there and use some regular nickle anti-seize.
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#3411696 - 10/21/13 09:18 AM Re: Smoke out of breech area ok? [Re: Rubberduck270]
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 Originally Posted By: Rubberduck270
Whatever it is it isn't taking the heat at all. I'd flush that crap off there and use some regular nickle anti-seize.


ordering now \:\) I wonder if that stuff could by causing the smoke? seems like it just started after I started using it, but I could be crazy.

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#3411699 - 10/21/13 09:20 AM Re: Smoke out of breech area ok? [Re: Tenn.Guy]
Rubberduck270
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I wouldn't doubt it. What color was it when you put it on?
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