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#3398921 - 10/12/13 01:55 AM Re: Broke a screw on the rear scope base. [Re: ratsnakeboogy]
Tar12
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 Originally Posted By: ratsnakeboogy
 Originally Posted By: WGK
I could have.


A Wheeler Fat Wrench will open your eyes on how much over-torquing happens with most scope rings.

Most call for 15-20 lbs of torque, I guesstimate I used to put upwards of 40 to 50 on them free-hand.

Over-torquing plus stout recoil = snapped ring screws.

x2. While I never had one break it was a eye opening experience when I bought a used torque wrench and realized how much heavy handed gorilla torque I had used on them! lol

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#3398954 - 10/12/13 05:38 AM Re: Broke a screw on the rear scope base. [Re: Rubberduck270]
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Great explanation Rubberduck.
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#3400015 - 10/13/13 05:04 AM Re: Broke a screw on the rear scope base. [Re: WGK]
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Back in the day we used " torque ratchets to work on radio's in the army, I would think " vs 'lbs would be closer ,never had any break but have witnessed some at the range before, I have always been afraid to add locktite to scope bases for fear of getting 1 broke Id never get it back out. never had problems of getting loose either, a dry torque & wet torque spec is different fyi
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#3400017 - 10/13/13 05:08 AM Re: Broke a screw on the rear scope base. [Re: mike243]
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here is what talley sez

7. Torque recommendations: For the lightweight alloy mounts: 20-25 in-lb for the base, 17 in-lb for the rings. Steel: bases 20-25 in-lb. Fixed rings, bottom screw 35 in-lb, top screw 17-24 in-lb. Detachable rings: large bottom screw 35 in-lb, small bottom screws 30 in-lb, top screws 17-24 in-lb. We do not recommend using Loctite but if you choose to do so then we recommend that you use a NON-permanent kind of Loctite.
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#3400036 - 10/13/13 05:47 AM Re: Broke a screw on the rear scope base. [Re: mike243]
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I going to order another set of bases tomorrow and probably a fat wrench. And start all over again. Site light should gets back where I need to be pretty easily.
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#3400093 - 10/13/13 07:26 AM Re: Broke a screw on the rear scope base. [Re: WGK]
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As far as using locktite, just make sure you use the right one, a softset.
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#3400111 - 10/13/13 07:49 AM Re: Broke a screw on the rear scope base. [Re: WGK]
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 Originally Posted By: WGK
Great explanation Rubberduck.

x2!
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#3400342 - 10/13/13 11:56 AM Re: Broke a screw on the rear scope base. [Re: KPH]
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 Originally Posted By: KPH
As far as using locktite, just make sure you use the right one, a softset.


I use Sally's Hard as Nails fingernail hardened. It's clear, find it in the girly section in Walmart. Never had a base work loose with it and it breaks free when I want it to.

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#3400519 - 10/13/13 02:34 PM Re: Broke a screw on the rear scope base. [Re: ratsnakeboogy]
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I have always used fingernail polish.
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#3400521 - 10/13/13 02:35 PM Re: Broke a screw on the rear scope base. [Re: ratsnakeboogy]
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I have always used fingernail polish.
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