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#3372989 - 09/24/13 07:33 PM Re: Deer hunting with a pistol? [Re: Hunter 257W]
Kimberman
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Model70man has them somewhere.(it was his deer) The fact that all were recovered from the neck of the deer, from a distance of about 10 feet tells me that they didn't penetrate worth a crap. No raking shots, no funny angles.
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#3373025 - 09/24/13 07:57 PM Re: Deer hunting with a pistol? [Re: Kimberman]
Model70Man
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I have the recovered bullets and will post pics tomorrow.
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#3373041 - 09/24/13 08:08 PM Re: Deer hunting with a pistol? [Re: Model70Man]
Deer Assassin
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that deer had a lot of adrenalin flowing through it

no way those bullets shouldnt of passed through
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#3373149 - 09/24/13 09:25 PM Re: Deer hunting with a pistol? [Re: Hunter 257W]
tn gunman
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I have killed 2 with a 10mm auto. The pistol was a Kimber 1911 with a 5" barrel. Both were with hand loads Max charge of Blue dot with 180g hornady xtps. 1250 +or- Fps range, The first was complete pass through, the shot went behind the shoulder facing me and through the opposite side. The other went through the shoulder facing me and through the opposite shoulder the bullet ended up lodged under the hide on opposite shoulder. Both deer were average sized does standing broadside between 40 to 50 yards. Note this load is no were near as anemic as factory loaded 10mm ammo it is a true full power load. Hornady xtps at these speeds will most definitely open up and do the trick on deer. My advice to any one thinking of hunting with a pistol is use quality full power loads ammo selection is key.
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#3373691 - 09/25/13 10:00 AM Re: Deer hunting with a pistol? [Re: tn gunman]
Hunter 257W
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I'm interested in seeing those bullets. It is surprising that they didn't even penetrate the neck. That certainly does suggest a bullet that is pretty soft if it failed to punch through the neck bones.

Also I think Deer Assassin makes a good point about the effect of adrenalin on a deer that had already been shot and was then approached within 10 feet by a human. They can become almost bullet proof at that point. The doe I had to shoot 3 times with my 460 Weatherby to keep her down proved that. 1st shot hit behind the back rib broadside as she was trotting. (Admittedly this was not desirable as it's not a quick killing shot being a gut-shot.) Next 2 bullets hit in the classic behind-the-shoulder area. Each shot causing her to fall. But she got back up each time and continued to trot away. Even got up after the 3rd hit and wobbled while I groped for another cartridge then fell and died.

I had to finish off a 3 yr old buck a few years back that I spine shot with my 25-06. My 2nd shot hit him in the shoulder from about 75 yards with a 115 grain Ballistic Tip with no effect at all. I quickly put the next shot through the base of his neck and he dropped instantly. Point being that once they are hit, they feel practically nothing.

But back to handgun bullets for deer. My idea of the ideal handgun bullet is a cast bullet with a wide flat nose (meplate). The flat nose gives a good energy transfer but the lack of a hollow point and relative toughness compared to a soft cored jacketed bullet will give good dependable penetration. I would also recommend at least .40 caliber with the 41 & 44 Magnums and 45 Colt being my personal choices.

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#3387484 - 10/04/13 09:34 AM Re: Deer hunting with a pistol? [Re: Hunter 257W]
Dewey606
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I agree with Hunter above. I use .41 Rem Mag and .45LC I pour and load myself. Hard cast semi wadcutters.
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#3399112 - 10/12/13 10:11 AM Re: Deer hunting with a pistol? [Re: Dewey606]
southernhunter
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I thought a 357 mag pistol wasn't legal according to tn's hand gun rules .
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#3399490 - 10/12/13 05:03 PM Re: Deer hunting with a pistol? [Re: southernhunter]
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no caliber limit on handguns and rifles with centerfire ammo


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#3399665 - 10/12/13 07:18 PM Re: Deer hunting with a pistol? [Re: Deer Assassin]
southernhunter
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Ok thanks . Some reason I was thinking the was a 40 caliber limit on hand guns , sorry .
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