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#3373512 - 09/25/13 08:13 AM Re: Little Help Needed on Bullet Selection... [Re: ghostfive]
TNDeerGuy
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I suffered from years of not being able to find the right bullet and finally slugged the barrel and measured the slug and then contacted a custom bullet maker, BullShop Bullets, and had a 460gr conical made that fit my muzzleloader perfectly and has made a night and day difference in how the thing shoots. It was like $25-$30 for 50 bullets.
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#3373520 - 09/25/13 08:16 AM Re: Little Help Needed on Bullet Selection... [Re: TNDeerGuy]
BlountArrow
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 Originally Posted By: TNDeerGuy
I suffered from years of not being able to find the right bullet and finally slugged the barrel and measured the slug and then contacted a custom bullet maker, BullShop Bullets, and had a 460gr conical made that fit my muzzleloader perfectly and has made a night and day difference in how the thing shoots. It was like $25-$30 for 50 bullets.


I really like this idea. However, I'm not familiar with the term "slugging" the barrel. What would be the best way for me to take this measurement?
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#3373634 - 09/25/13 09:19 AM Re: Little Help Needed on Bullet Selection... [Re: BlountArrow]
TNDeerGuy
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 Originally Posted By: BlountArrow
 Originally Posted By: TNDeerGuy
I suffered from years of not being able to find the right bullet and finally slugged the barrel and measured the slug and then contacted a custom bullet maker, BullShop Bullets, and had a 460gr conical made that fit my muzzleloader perfectly and has made a night and day difference in how the thing shoots. It was like $25-$30 for 50 bullets.


I really like this idea. However, I'm not familiar with the term "slugging" the barrel. What would be the best way for me to take this measurement?


This is a decent article on accurizing a muzzleloader, even though it is for White the same rules should apply with most I would think. http://www.whitemuzzleloading.com/myweb2/images/whiterifles/accurizing_the_muzzleloading_rif.htm


How I slugged the barrel was to get a solid lead ball and ground it down to where it was slightly bigger, .5055, than my .504 listed bore. I then sprayed a ton of gun oil in the bore and then soaked the ball and then slowly and carefully tamped it all the way down using a large wooden dowel and repeated the process a few times. I came out with a measurement of .5042 so the gentleman at BullShop made the bullets to .5045 and they fit perfect.

There maybe better instructions out there on how to slug a barrel, but that is how I did it. Hope this helps!

Bullshopboolits@aol.com is their email, and they may actually have a better suggestion....they were very nice, helpful people.
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#3373655 - 09/25/13 09:33 AM Re: Little Help Needed on Bullet Selection... [Re: BlountArrow]
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 Originally Posted By: BlountArrow
 Originally Posted By: TNDeerGuy
I suffered from years of not being able to find the right bullet and finally slugged the barrel and measured the slug and then contacted a custom bullet maker, BullShop Bullets, and had a 460gr conical made that fit my muzzleloader perfectly and has made a night and day difference in how the thing shoots. It was like $25-$30 for 50 bullets.


I really like this idea. However, I'm not familiar with the term "slugging" the barrel. What would be the best way for me to take this measurement?


There are several youtube videos on how to slug a barrel and most of the custom bullet makers have a slug kit you can buy to run through your bore and send back to them for measurement. They cast the bullets to perfectly fit your particular bore.

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#3373682 - 09/25/13 09:53 AM Re: Little Help Needed on Bullet Selection... [Re: ratsnakeboogy]
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Excellent info TNDeerGuy and ratsnakeboogy....thanks a ton. I think this is the route I'm going to take!
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#3373950 - 09/25/13 01:04 PM Re: Little Help Needed on Bullet Selection... [Re: BlountArrow]
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How about thor bullets. If I wasn't gonna us a sabot that's what I would use. Its basically a barnes without a sabot.
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#3376331 - 09/27/13 07:36 AM Re: Little Help Needed on Bullet Selection... [Re: ratsnakeboogy]
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 Originally Posted By: ratsnakeboogy
 Originally Posted By: BlountArrow
 Originally Posted By: TNDeerGuy
I suffered from years of not being able to find the right bullet and finally slugged the barrel and measured the slug and then contacted a custom bullet maker, BullShop Bullets, and had a 460gr conical made that fit my muzzleloader perfectly and has made a night and day difference in how the thing shoots. It was like $25-$30 for 50 bullets.


I really like this idea. However, I'm not familiar with the term "slugging" the barrel. What would be the best way for me to take this measurement?


There are several youtube videos on how to slug a barrel and most of the custom bullet makers have a slug kit you can buy to run through your bore and send back to them for measurement. They cast the bullets to perfectly fit your particular bore.


Okay guys I've been looking into this "slugging the barrel" procedure and im curious. Why couldn't I get a good machinist friend of mine to mic the inside diameter of the bore at the peak of the rifling and in the valley of the rifling and achieve the same result?
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#3376585 - 09/27/13 10:10 AM Re: Little Help Needed on Bullet Selection... [Re: BlountArrow]
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Okay guys I've been looking into this "slugging the barrel" procedure and im curious. Why couldn't I get a good machinist friend of mine to mic the inside diameter of the bore at the peak of the rifling and in the valley of the rifling and achieve the same result?

You can, but the slug will pick up the smallest area of you rifling, which is what I would size for. Most barrels have an inconsistent measurement from bore to breech, if the bore measurement is bigger you can find yourself hammering one down the last few inches(worst case scenario). JMO.

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#3376603 - 09/27/13 10:23 AM Re: Little Help Needed on Bullet Selection... [Re: ratsnakeboogy]
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 Originally Posted By: ratsnakeboogy
Okay guys I've been looking into this "slugging the barrel" procedure and im curious. Why couldn't I get a good machinist friend of mine to mic the inside diameter of the bore at the peak of the rifling and in the valley of the rifling and achieve the same result?

You can, but the slug will pick up the smallest area of you rifling, which is what I would size for. Most barrels have an inconsistent measurement from bore to breech, if the bore measurement is bigger you can find yourself hammering one down the last few inches(worst case scenario). JMO.


Exactly! The barrel of a weapon may have very, very slight "discrepancies" in size from end to end due to many factors. That is why "slugging" is the best method to match the most accurate size of the entire barrel.
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#3376628 - 09/27/13 10:56 AM Re: Little Help Needed on Bullet Selection... [Re: TNDeerGuy]
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I knew it couldn't be that easy \:D . I knew the experts would know - thanks again.

Edited by BlountArrow (09/27/13 10:56 AM)
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