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#3361738 - 09/16/13 07:02 PM BH 209
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Can someone explain how to measure this powder ,if I put 100 grains in my tube how much is that in BH209 grains?
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#3361789 - 09/16/13 07:21 PM Re: BH 209 [Re: wsm]
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100 grains is 100 grains if measured, no different than measuring out triple 7 or pyro
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#3361933 - 09/16/13 08:33 PM Re: BH 209 [Re: knightrider]
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Grains is a weight. There are 7000 grains to a pound. Most volumetric measures are based on real black powder equivalent volume. The only way to be sure what's in your measure is to weigh what you got on scales.
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#3362495 - 09/17/13 08:50 AM Re: BH 209 [Re: Wobblyshot1]
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So how does that differ from measuring in "volume"? How is volume measurement achieved vs just weighing in grains is what I'm trying to ask.
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#3362518 - 09/17/13 09:04 AM Re: BH 209 [Re: MUP]
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BH209 isn't shaped like black powder. So if you fill up a cylinder of a given volume with BH209, you will have a different weight of powder than you would if you filled the same cylinder of a given volume with black powder.

Think of filling a bucket with rocks and another with sand. Since the sand is smaller in grain size, you will have more weight of sand in the bucket than with the bucket of rocks.
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#3362623 - 09/17/13 10:31 AM Re: BH 209 [Re: Rubberduck270]
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Thanks RD. I get it, finally. ;\)
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#3362637 - 09/17/13 10:46 AM Re: BH 209 [Re: MUP]
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Good deal MUP. In all honesty, that's hard to explain. May be my limited vocabulary though. Nothing like comparing gun powder to sand and rocks lol.
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#3362675 - 09/17/13 11:16 AM Re: BH 209 [Re: Rubberduck270]
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70 grains weight = 100 grains volume BH209.
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#3362831 - 09/17/13 01:08 PM Re: BH 209 [Re: FrontierGander]
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So, using that proportion, 63 gr wt = 90 gr vol, correct?
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#3363423 - 09/17/13 08:00 PM Re: BH 209 [Re: MUP]
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Their website explains all this in the FAQ part
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#3363456 - 09/17/13 08:14 PM Re: BH 209 [Re: MUP]
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
So, using that proportion, 63 gr wt = 90 gr vol, correct?


You are correct but the only sure way to know is weigh the charge from your measure.
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#3363916 - 09/18/13 05:20 AM Re: BH 209 [Re: Wobblyshot1]
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Cool. Thanks guys. ;\)
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#3364064 - 09/18/13 07:49 AM Re: BH 209 [Re: MUP]
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I threw 10 charges from my powder measure set at 100gr volume. Then weighed them on my scale averaging right at 70.5 gr. actual weight. If I'm doing load development at the range with a new bullet then I weigh the loads out on the scale for the most consistency. I usually weigh them out for my quick loaders prior to a hunt if I have time.
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#3364287 - 09/18/13 10:41 AM Re: BH 209 [Re: knightrider]
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As someone who has only shot Pyrodex, and considering a change to BH 209, I thank you all for the info. ;\)
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#3364399 - 09/18/13 12:20 PM Re: BH 209 [Re: MUP]
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I used it for the first time on Friday. Shot 16 times and the thing was cleaner than 1 shot of pyrodex. I'm a convert. Also I used their tubes they sell which have the correct graduations on them to measure volume.
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#3364546 - 09/18/13 02:16 PM Re: BH 209 [Re: Bucket]
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 Originally Posted By: Bucket
I used it for the first time on Friday. Shot 16 times and the thing was cleaner than 1 shot of pyrodex. I'm a convert. Also I used their tubes they sell which have the correct graduations on them to measure volume.


You may like these as well. I dont trust the marks on the BH209 tubes, I always measure from an actual powder measure.
http://www.frontiermuzzleloading.com/t395-lane-s-powder-tubes

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#3366269 - 09/19/13 04:58 PM Re: BH 209 [Re: MUP]
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
As someone who has only shot Pyrodex, and considering a change to BH 209, I thank you all for the info. ;\)


MUP, I recently switched to BH from Pyrodex. I think you will be pleased. Very clean, all you need is Hoppes number 9 to clean it with. I've shot the minimum charge of 80 grains and the max of 120 (by volume) and both grouped well at 100 yds. I'm shooting Barnes expander mz 250 grain bullets with Nobel shotgun primers.
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#3366299 - 09/19/13 05:30 PM Re: BH 209 [Re: Barnes Ridge Rambler]
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Cool. I've been using 90 gr of pyro with a 260 gr lead only saboted bullet, and have been more than happy with the accuracy, but always a little put off by the sludge I rake out of the barrel at each cleaning. \:\)
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#3793184 - 10/13/14 10:32 AM Re: BH 209 [Re: MUP]
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BTT for some good info.
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#3794531 - 10/14/14 10:28 AM Re: BH 209 [Re: MUP]
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I set up a CVA Wolf for a bud of mine sunday...110gr by volume with barnes 290gr tez...Shot about 15 times with excellent accuracy out to 200yds.......one pass with the bore snake cleaned the barrel right up....Note, my experience with BH209 it will shoot high on a clean barrel, so I leave my barrel fouled for hunting.
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#3806283 - 10/24/14 02:22 PM Re: BH 209 [Re: Roost 1]
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Considering making the switch. Ordered a 209BH Breach Plug for my Optima. What Primer do you guys recommend? I am currently shooting TC Shockwave 350 Grain, 2 pellets of 777 and 209 primer.
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#3806318 - 10/24/14 02:45 PM Re: BH 209 [Re: ranafea]
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Federal 209 or CCI 209M
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#3806471 - 10/24/14 06:10 PM Re: BH 209 [Re: ranafea]
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 Originally Posted By: ranafea
Considering making the switch. Ordered a 209BH Breach Plug for my Optima. What Primer do you guys recommend? I am currently shooting TC Shockwave 350 Grain, 2 pellets of 777 and 209 primer.
whatever you do don't use a muzzleloader primer designed for 777


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#3806736 - 10/24/14 10:20 PM Re: BH 209 [Re: Jcalder]
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Does anybody know where this stuff is in stock? Preferably west tn.
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