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#3361299 - 09/16/13 12:36 PM Turkeys
DeerWhisperer
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Anyone have any advice on how to keep the tukey population out of newly planted plots.

I went to check on my plots planted the weekend of 9/7. When I arrived to my first plot, 4 jakes on the field. Some new growth coming in but it looks like most of my oats and wheat is gone. I overseeded again.

Second plot in middle of woods, aobut half an acre. 8 turkeys on the plot when I arrived, again looks like most of oats and wheat gone.

Third plot, less 1/4 acre, 4 turkeys.

Looks like I may have a great fall turkey season but any hints on how to keep them out of the newply planted plots.
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#3361325 - 09/16/13 12:56 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: DeerWhisperer]
drrxnupe
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LOL...sorry about your frustration. Honestly I kinda wish I had that problem for my plots in Mississippi.

Are you broadcasting or drilling? If broadcasting, are you lightly disking or dragging afterwards to cover the seed? At this point, there's probably not a lot that you could do because they know that seed is there. They'll probably dig and scratch searching for seed all the time...until you kill a few.

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#3361339 - 09/16/13 01:01 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: drrxnupe]
woodsman87
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The best thing I can say is what drrxnupe said, try to cover the seeds best you can.

BTW I would like to have that problem. I am much more of a turkey guy than deer guy.

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#3361340 - 09/16/13 01:03 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: drrxnupe]
bigtex
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When I plant a new plot or reseed an existing plot I always fertilize first. I simply save the fertilizer bags and hang them from tree limbs, fence posts etc so that they can move around in the breeze. The turkeys will eventually figure it out but by that time most of my seed has sprouted.
Another thing I have learned over the years to keep turkeys, doves and the like from eating newly sown seed is to top dress a little fertilizer after I have planted. I'm not sure how it works but it sure keeps the critters from eating it.
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#3361375 - 09/16/13 01:26 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: DeerWhisperer]
Jaahspike
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[quote=DeerWhisperer]Anyone have any advice on how to keep the tukey population out of newly planted plots.

I went to check on my plots planted the weekend of 9/7. When I arrived to my first plot, 4 jakes on the field. Some new growth coming in but it looks like most of my oats and wheat is gone. I overseeded again.

Second plot in middle of woods, aobut half an acre. 8 turkeys on the plot when I arrived, again looks like most of oats and wheat gone.

I am in the same boat. This is the first year I have planted plots and I just overseeded again as well. I have lots of pics of turkeys in my plots. I hate it. They were just struttin around that place eating up what I consider money straight out of my pocket! I did not lightly cover mine though. May do that on the next time around.
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#3361399 - 09/16/13 01:48 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: Jaahspike]
muddyboots
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We cover ours or lightly disk them in. It does help.
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#3361524 - 09/16/13 03:04 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: muddyboots]
hitek7
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We normally drag ours until you can hardly see any seed. Sometimes if the ground is right, we throw the seed out and then disc in when turning the ground. We have a high turkey population but if we can get rain within a week or so after planting are plots are fine.
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#3361719 - 09/16/13 06:51 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: hitek7]
Southern Sportsman
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Best defense is a strong offense. What you really need is someone who will come out every spring, and thin out the turkeys. I'm pretty busy in the spring, but -- since I like you -- I'll volunteer. Those Jakes will be 2 year olds in the spring, and I will exact sweet revenge for the eating of your seed. Just PM me directions
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#3361766 - 09/16/13 07:13 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: muddyboots]
bbuck14
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 Originally Posted By: muddyboots
We cover ours or lightly disk them in. It does help.


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#3361905 - 09/16/13 08:17 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: bbuck14]
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Thanks to all. I did cover the seeds lightly with a culti packer and did over seed. I guess they found the overseed and then discovered the rest. I am also a turkey hunter as well. Funny thing about it, did not kill a bird off this farm this spring now I am seeing more gobblers than I did all season.

I think i will make a trip back this weekend to over seed and add some fertilizer in addition to a scare crow or to. Hopefully that will work.

Worst case I will be turkey hunting opening day of archery season vs. deer.
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#3361942 - 09/16/13 08:40 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: DeerWhisperer]
drrxnupe
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I would suggest disking or dragging instead of cultipacking cereal grains. They can certainly tolerate being deeper into the soil. Smaller legume seeds should be cultipacked.
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#3361985 - 09/16/13 09:14 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: drrxnupe]
Wompuscat
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A few bags of corn may slow them down on your seed til it is established. Extra seed in 1 spot may help also. I have done this and it did help some.
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#3362681 - 09/17/13 11:21 AM Re: Turkeys [Re: Wompuscat]
Shooter77
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I feel your pain! I took my 3 y/o with me last month and we worked up a small 1/8 food plot on the back side of my property for ML/Gun season. I spent 2 hours cleaning and seeding then covering it the best I could with my hand tools. set up a trail cam, showed us leaving at 12:58 and at 1:28, I had 17 turkeys in it eating my seed. As it started growing, it got to about 4" tall and i had 5 come in and scratch up a lot of areas the size of basketballs in the plot. I"m going to try to go back and over seed before another rain.

Last year I did one about 1/4 acre, the next 5 days (2-4 times a day) i had up to 40 turkeys in it eating my seed. I had to over seed it 3 times and ended up with about 4 yard x 7 yard long strip of winter wheat come up.

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#3365950 - 09/19/13 01:02 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: Shooter77]
Hunter 257W
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I'm starting to think turkeys may be the reason for my poor Fall plot results this year. I found several scrached up areas in the dirt about a foot or a bit more in diameter that look like something has been scratching around in the dirt. Is that turkeys? I know very little about them.

No matter what the reason, my plots haven't come up very well. I'm planning to reseed some of my Winter Pea plots Friday afternoon to take advantage of the rain that's supposed to come Saturday. Will most likely reseed the NoPlow plots too.

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#3368259 - 09/21/13 08:27 AM Re: Turkeys [Re: Hunter 257W]
AROD
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I put plastic bags around my plot after reading this post the other day and haven't seen any more turkeys. Must be working.
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#3368665 - 09/21/13 01:32 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: AROD]
bigtex
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 Originally Posted By: AROD
I put plastic bags around my plot after reading this post the other day and haven't seen any more turkeys. Must be working.

Glad I could help, lol. Sometimes the simple things work best.
As you probably know, turkeys are very "skittish" and anything out of the ordinary will scare them off, especially if it is something that moves.
They will in time get accustomed to anything, it wouldn't hurt to move those bags around in a few days. Your seed should be sprouted by then and hopefully they will leave it alone.
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#3369004 - 09/21/13 05:41 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: bigtex]
AROD
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So far it's working. But I will change them around it can't hurt. Really was a great idea I know how skittish they are but didnt even think of that. Thanks
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#3370944 - 09/23/13 10:26 AM Re: Turkeys [Re: DeerWhisperer]
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Update- Due to the forecasted rain coming into the area this past weekend, rushed home Friday to get some overseeding on the plots before the rain hit.

Arrive at the first plot, 17 turkeys in the plot, 2 actually in full strut. Reseeded in the rain, place several white trash bags in the limbs surrounding the plots.

Reseeded other 2, no turkeys.

Went back yesterday afternoon to see how the plots handeld the rain, we had heavy rains all night Friday night in Hickman county. Arrived to first plot, 9 turkeys in the field in fronto the tree with the white trash bags blowing in the wind.

I only hope the rains Friday got the seeds the dirt enough to save some.

I give up, I think I am inviting some friends out Saturday for an archery turkey shoot
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#3373011 - 09/24/13 07:46 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: drrxnupe]
drrxnupe
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 Originally Posted By: drrxnupe
LOL...sorry about your frustration. Honestly I kinda wish I had that problem for my plots in Mississippi.

Are you broadcasting or drilling? If broadcasting, are you lightly disking or dragging afterwards to cover the seed? At this point, there's probably not a lot that you could do because they know that seed is there. They'll probably dig and scratch searching for seed all the time...until you kill a few.


So I planted 2 plots on Sunday. One plot wheat, oats, and red clover, the other (shown below) with ladino and brassicas. After wishing I had your problem, I got this pic texted from my HCO Panda cam...



Unfortunately I can't use the plastic bag trick because my farm is 4 1/2 hours away

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#3373524 - 09/25/13 08:17 AM Re: Turkeys [Re: drrxnupe]
AROD
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Don't worry about the bags. Turkeys are back in my plot but its starting to grow good now.
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#3373599 - 09/25/13 08:59 AM Re: Turkeys [Re: AROD]
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We double the normal recommended planting amounts for big seed (wheat, oats, rye) for this very reason, and always cover it. These seeds can stand to be an inch or more deep. Sow the small seed (clover, turnips, brassica) on top RIGHT IN FRONT OF RAIN. Turkeys will get some but not all.
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#3381426 - 09/30/13 06:33 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: DeerWhisperer]
tickweed
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they need a slick trick
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#3389165 - 10/05/13 06:05 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: DeerWhisperer]
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I use a drag harrow to cover and never have a serious problem. you only need the 4x4 to cover not this 6x8 as shown.....they are fantastic, and I wouldn't be without one! Tractor supply sells this one and it is awesome



Edited by Boone 58 (10/05/13 06:05 PM)
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#3395989 - 10/10/13 04:04 AM Re: Turkeys [Re: AROD]
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Hey drrxnupe - too bad you live so far from your farm. That must be hard sometimes.

I'm fortunate to live on mine, but when leaving for work in the mornings, I tell my wife that I feel like a fool leaving all that to go work indoors all day. It is even worse this time of year- dark when I leave, dark when I get home. Sometimes I go for a walk in the AM if I have at least a half-moon.

Back to topic - I guess this Saturday we can thin out those turkeys a little if they will cooperate. Sound like some of you will be using white plastic bag camo.

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#3399755 - 10/12/13 08:04 PM Re: Turkeys [Re: Swampster]
drrxnupe
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 Originally Posted By: Swampster
Hey drrxnupe - too bad you live so far from your farm. That must be hard sometimes.



It does suck but I am so thankful to have it. I have family members that live on the property but they can give a rat's u know what about hunting. Having 3 cellular cams on my food plots does help just tab bit.

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