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#3358575 - 09/13/13 08:47 PM Squirrel limit tips.... (long read)
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I have recieved several pm's and questions asked with in threads about sharing tips and techniques that for being effective in the squirrel woods with a rifle. I apologize it has taken me so long to post this but my schedule has been terrible the last couple of weeks. I will say first hand there are NO tips that i could give with a shotgun because i have never hunted squirrels with one and never plan to. My first tidbit advice is to read the thread TN'S TOUGHEST LIMIT, you should find it on the first page in this forum. It will highlight the motivation for trying to perfect hunting technique for TN squirrels (something i still have not done except for one hunt).

I guess the most important thing that i have seen from years of hunting tournaments and with other people is that you have to be focused on killing squirrels. Seems like a ton of hunters who take the woods in search of bushytails are more focused on checkin trail cams, hanging stands and scouting for deer. Those are great activities, no doubt, but they are going to hurt your chances for killing a large number of squirrels. if you are truely serious about it, and are consumed with desire to reach your limit, deer shouldnt be on your mind at all.

The second factor of success is that kill a bunch of squirrels you have to see a bunch of squirrels. I figure that to kill limit, most times you will need to see 15-18 squirrels and shoot at 11-13. Those October oak thickets that were crawling with squirrels, right before halloween last yr will more than likely not produce a limit in August or September. Limits ride on the limbs of hickories not Oaks. In addition, the block being hunted needs to be large enough to handle the foot travel and shooting required to reach the magic number of 10. The smallest block of woods i hunt is roughly 7-8 acres. Small tracts must be prime to be huntable in my experience. It doesnt take long to shoot those blocks out. Better make those shots count.

The third factor of success hinges on the shooter and the gun. I strive to kill 10 squirrels in 10 shots. I did it once in 2006. i have gone 10-11 many times. I typically go 10-12 or 10-13. Seems there is always a squirrel that requires an additional shot to finish or dislodge from a tree. I read alot of hunters on here who say that they use a shotgun because there are too many leaves on the tree or the squirrels are too high for a 22. I have never seen a tree that is too high for a 22 and i hunt some really old forests, that have never seen a chainsaw. To be successful you have be patient on the shot and quick on the trigger. sounds impossible but seasoned squirrel hunters know of what i speak.you must anticipate the opening they are gonna to cross and be ready to touch off a precise shot at a milliseconds notice. A light trigger and thin crosshairs will help your cause. Hunters who are used to hunting big slow targets like deer will often struggle with this. Time and repetition will cure this. I have hunted with (predominatly)deer hunters who wait and wait on the perfect steady still shot. AINT GONNA HAPPEN. when i see limbs swishing, its locate a rest tree, safety off, track him, let him settle, shoot.I say this to myself many times during the hunt. It is a part of the process.

Next, to kill a limit, you must be able to recover the squirrels you shoot. That can be tough in a tight canopy. As a kid, i couldnt count how many times i flirted with a limit, only to fall a squirrel or two short because i couldnt recover a squirrel or 3 that i shot out. Nothing is more frustrating that to lose a squirrel that u know u killed because you dont know where he fell. I had to learn to mark my trees BEFORE the shot. I rarely ever lose a squirrel now- 2 yrs and counting since my last one (knock on wood). Also i had to find the right ammo to minimize ground travel on a fatality hit squirrel. Those 4 or 5 feet can make a difference between a recovered squirrel and a lost one, especially in heavy foliage. High velocity hollow points are the only way to go in my experience.

To kill a limit, you need to be able to recognize a killable squirrel from an unkillable squirrel. After many years in the fall squirrel woods, i have come to the conclusion that all squirrels can be classified in 3 ways- barkers, travelors and cutters. Your success will be hinged to killing travelors. They work faster and offer kill shots more quickly. Barkers often take too much time to locate and spook before you locate them. Remember, they are barking for a reason- they are spooked. Cutters can be nice bonuses but can be tough to locate in the early season. I usually ony mess with cutters if i know that my limit is not in jeopardy and if the cutter is in a small tree.

Finally, stay mobile. watch the clock. squirrels slow down at 8 and shut off at 9. Over time you will learn which squirrels to follow and which to wave at. Rarely will I wait at one point beyond 20 minutes.I can always hear the clock ticking. If i am at squirrel 8 at 6:50, i will take my time and maybe give a cutter a trial run. If i am at squirrel 6 at 7:45, i am trying to locate a travelor.

I never use calls, shoot nests, sit in a treestand or use any gimmicks. I have owned all the rifles, but feel the 22LR is the only option. They are light, quiet and have the right blend of accuracy, bullet selection and affordablity to shoot.I have hunted with guys who used 17 hmrs and 22 mags and they typically did not fair well in the competition- those guns are just a bit loud and suppress activity, especially in smaller tracts. Likewise, the super heavy 10/22 configurations with high mounts and big scopes are too heavy and cumbersome to be consistently effective- You will find those guys wanting to set up and wait on the squirrels to come to them and that just dont work. I believe that if you have a light, balance accurate rifle with good optics, quality ammo and a steady hand you have everything you need.

Stay light, stay mobile. I think squirrel hunting is the purest form of hunting. What could be better than trying to harvest a limit of animals who have the vantage point on us. It incorporates stealth, accuracy, tree ID, mobility, tracking and time management. It is truely a southern heritage and for some, it is an untapped resource. I hope that u will take advantage of some of the finest hunting the Volunteer State has to offer, and one of the toughest challenges you can embark on.




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#3358731 - 09/13/13 10:58 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: redblood]
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Great post. Thanks.
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#3358733 - 09/13/13 11:11 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: JAD]
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Thanks Redblood. I was one who had requested information from you and this read was very informative. Now, if I can just put it in use and make it work, lol.
Thanks again for taking the time to answer the many questions.

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#3358734 - 09/13/13 11:16 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: Stevie Ray]
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 Originally Posted By: Stevie Ray
Thanks Redblood. I was one who had requested information from you and this read was very informative. Now, if I can just put it in use and make it work, lol.
Thanks again for taking the time to answer the many questions.



i apologize for taking so long. i started on it last night and fell asleep about 5 minutes in. i guess i even bore myself, lol
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#3358746 - 09/14/13 12:04 AM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: redblood]
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Good idea for the post, thanks Stevie Ray & Red blood, always love anything squirrel hunt'n.
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#3358898 - 09/14/13 08:41 AM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: FOX FIRE]
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Awesome insight redblood, appreciate you writing it up
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#3358902 - 09/14/13 08:45 AM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: FOX FIRE]
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I'm the guy who's guilty of spotting the squirrel, then waiting, and waiting, and waiting for that perfect shot....and wind up with no shot. Advice taken, Redblood, I'm taking the first decent shot I get and doing it QUICK! Thanks.
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#3358940 - 09/14/13 09:55 AM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: JAD]
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 Originally Posted By: JAD
I'm the guy who's guilty of spotting the squirrel, then waiting, and waiting, and waiting for that perfect shot....and wind up with no shot. Advice taken, Redblood, I'm taking the first decent shot I get and doing it QUICK! Thanks.


i think that is the hardest thing to do. I think tomorrow morn will be prime. got some sleep last night, so i will be in the saddle in the morn. good luck to all
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#3358958 - 09/14/13 10:17 AM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: redblood]
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great post great tips
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#3359009 - 09/14/13 11:19 AM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: Deer Assassin]
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Great post.
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#3359024 - 09/14/13 11:53 AM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: ghostfive]
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Good info. Most hunters who only hunt squirrels on occasion are surprised by how difficult it is. It is easy to sit in your tree stand in November and think that squirrel hunting must be easy, but getting out and actually killing 4+ squirrels is can difficult.
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#3359443 - 09/14/13 06:50 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
Good info. Most hunters who only hunt squirrels on occasion are surprised by how difficult it is. It is easy to sit in your tree stand in November and think that squirrel hunting must be easy, but getting out and actually killing 4+ squirrels is can difficult.



so true.
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#3359527 - 09/14/13 07:57 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: redblood]
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Great tips that can be used by shotgun hunters.
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#3360450 - 09/15/13 06:56 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: timberjack86]
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 Originally Posted By: timberjack86
Great tips that can be used by shotgun hunters.



have never hunted with a shotgun. just dont think it would be my thing
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#3360518 - 09/15/13 07:39 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
 Originally Posted By: timberjack86
Great tips that can be used by shotgun hunters.



have never hunted with a shotgun. just dont think it would be my thing
Both ways put meat on the ground. I have used 22 lr, high powerd airguns and shotguns. I just prefer to hunt with a shotgun.
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#3360540 - 09/15/13 07:51 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: ghostfive]
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Very informative post redblood.
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#3360568 - 09/15/13 08:08 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: ghostfive]
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Redblood is the man, however I disagree with the part about squirrels shutting down at 9. I.ve killed tons in my life way up in the morning. They do tend to really slow down as far as movement, but I cant tell you how many times Ive eased up on a hickory that they have been cutting, and just stood underneath it for several minutes and noticed just ever so slightly almost just dust or a very small piece of a nut falling. Also have killed tons by just hearing them grinding very softly. It does get really warm lots of mornings, but I"ve stayed in the bottom late and killed em as late as noon. One other tip I would offer about hunting after 9am, they start watering, and Ive killed lots near creek banks that where on the ground. Not trying to steal anyones thread. lots of great tips here.
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#3360768 - 09/15/13 10:15 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: tickweed]
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 Originally Posted By: tickweed
Redblood is the man, however I disagree with the part about squirrels shutting down at 9. I.ve killed tons in my life way up in the morning. They do tend to really slow down as far as movement, but I cant tell you how many times Ive eased up on a hickory that they have been cutting, and just stood underneath it for several minutes and noticed just ever so slightly almost just dust or a very small piece of a nut falling. Also have killed tons by just hearing them grinding very softly. It does get really warm lots of mornings, but I"ve stayed in the bottom late and killed em as late as noon. One other tip I would offer about hunting after 9am, they start watering, and Ive killed lots near creek banks that where on the ground. Not trying to steal anyones thread. lots of great tips here.




no doubt they can be killed at after 9, but i would rather be limited out by 8 lol. when the cicadas start singing, you better have a full stick
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#3360923 - 09/16/13 06:35 AM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
 Originally Posted By: timberjack86
Great tips that can be used by shotgun hunters.



have never hunted with a shotgun. just dont think it would be my thing


You should try a single shot 410. Shot selection becomes almost as important as a 22, and the single shot provides an extra challenge in terms of reloading, when you are dealing with more than one squirrel in range.
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#3361693 - 09/16/13 06:14 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: WMAn]
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 Originally Posted By: WMAn
 Originally Posted By: redblood
 Originally Posted By: timberjack86
Great tips that can be used by shotgun hunters.



have never hunted with a shotgun. just dont think it would be my thing


You should try a single shot 410. Shot selection becomes almost as important as a 22, and the single shot provides an extra challenge in terms of reloading, when you are dealing with more than one squirrel in range.





winchester made a little lever action 410. if i had to hunt squirrels with a scattergun, that would be my choice
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#3361804 - 09/16/13 07:29 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: WMAn]
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 Originally Posted By: WMAn
 Originally Posted By: redblood
 Originally Posted By: timberjack86
Great tips that can be used by shotgun hunters.



have never hunted with a shotgun. just dont think it would be my thing


You should try a single shot 410. Shot selection becomes almost as important as a 22, and the single shot provides an extra challenge in terms of reloading, when you are dealing with more than one squirrel in range.
I had a 16 gauge singleshot. I loved that gun. Times got hard and money was tight I like the extra pop of a 20 or 16 over a 410. But I love the challenge of a good single shot.
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#3361904 - 09/16/13 08:16 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: ghostfive]
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good read
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#3367938 - 09/20/13 07:05 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: sure shot]
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i have tried 3 times to go since i broke my foot and couldnt get into the woods due to pain. but by the grace of god, i finally have full mobility back so sunday morn, i should be able to add another limit.
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#3367964 - 09/20/13 10:24 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: redblood]
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Great post Redblood.
Not much to add to all this.

But just a little . . . . . .

Fox squirrels have a tendency to not be as active in the early morning as gray squirrels; fox squirrels are more likely to be active during mid-morning than gray squirrels. Unfortunately, seems to be mostly gray squirrels most of my best squirrel woods.

You can see squirrels at all times of day, but I totally agree with Redblood that if you don't have your limit by around 8:30 or 9:00, you probably have about all you're going to get even if you hunt hard on until noon. It's not just an issue of the squirrels becoming less active, but an issue of the wind picking up and other factors making squirrels harder to hear, harder to see, and harder to hit.

A "cutter" in the typical morning early "calm" can be heard from a considerable distance, and easily killed when seen. But put him on a limb blowing in the wind, he's much harder to hit if seen, while you're more likely to never hear or see him. Need to have 6 to 8 squirrels by 8am to have a great chance of a limit by 9am.

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#3368071 - 09/21/13 04:49 AM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
i have tried 3 times to go since i broke my foot and couldnt get into the woods due to pain. but by the grace of god, i finally have full mobility back so sunday morn, i should be able to add another limit.


I once had an ingrown toenail that kept me from hunting the KY juvenile deer hunt, so I feel your pain. Except in my case, it was more my mom than the pain that kept me at home.

I'm up working this morning so that I can go squirrel hunting on Monday morning.

This time last year, the squirrels were really in a grove of beech trees on a north facing river bluff. That's where I'll be headed.
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#3368121 - 09/21/13 06:57 AM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: WMAn]
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monday looks prime. good luck to ya. sunday looks nice, but i am worried about a bit of north wind behind the front. i would say the conversion from hickories to oaks has begun. i have killed quite a few from beech trees over the yrs. it seems they have a small window of attraction, but that attraction is strong.
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#3369256 - 09/21/13 08:59 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: redblood]
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Has anybody else noticed that fox squirrels seem to really like pines ? I rarely see a fox squirrel in the pure hardwood stands. If there are some pines around my sightings go way up.
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#3369533 - 09/22/13 08:02 AM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: fishboy1]
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 Originally Posted By: fishboy1
Has anybody else noticed that fox squirrels seem to really like pines ? I rarely see a fox squirrel in the pure hardwood stands. If there are some pines around my sightings go way up.


I have never noticed that fox squirrels have an affinity for pines. My experience is that fox squirrels are hit or miss. Certain woodlots have them others do not. I have noticed that along the Duck River fox squirrels really like river bluffs.
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#3369838 - 09/22/13 01:48 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: WMAn]
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Redblood,

How did you do this morning? The wind appeared to pick up a little bit here at the house around 7:30.

I ended up getting to go yesterday afternoon. I hunted from a kayak on the duck river. The wind made it tough. I managed just one gray squirrel out of the five squirrels I spotted.

I'll be back at it in the morning.
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#3373247 - 09/24/13 10:50 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
To kill a limit, you need to be able to recognize a killable squirrel from an unkillable squirrel. After many years in the fall squirrel woods, i have come to the conclusion that all squirrels can be classified in 3 ways- barkers, travelors and cutters. Your success will be hinged to killing travelors. They work faster and offer kill shots more quickly.

Redblood,

Would you mind elaborating more on how you chase those "travelors"? \:\)

I've always preferred pursuing the "cutters", but maybe if I can learn better how to get the "travelors" . . . . . . . . .
Seems I do take as many "travelors", but usually while I'm waiting on a "cutter" to show himself, rather than deliberately pursuing a "travelor". Seems while I'm on to a "cutter", some "travelors" travel my way.

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#3378286 - 09/28/13 07:54 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: redblood
To kill a limit, you need to be able to recognize a killable squirrel from an unkillable squirrel. After many years in the fall squirrel woods, i have come to the conclusion that all squirrels can be classified in 3 ways- barkers, travelors and cutters. Your success will be hinged to killing travelors. They work faster and offer kill shots more quickly.

Redblood,

Would you mind elaborating more on how you chase those "travelors"? \:\)

I've always preferred pursuing the "cutters", but maybe if I can learn better how to get the "travelors" . . . . . . . . .
Seems I do take as many "travelors", but usually while I'm waiting on a "cutter" to show himself, rather than deliberately pursuing a "travelor". Seems while I'm on to a "cutter", some "travelors" travel my way.




i try to them off, by trying to locate a good rest tree in their path. if they are moving fast without pausing i let them go
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#3378921 - 09/29/13 10:36 AM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: redblood]
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Redblood, have you ever tried using a mono/bipod as a rest? I also like to find a tree to rest the gun on, but sometimes getting to one that provides a clear shot causes me to get busted....and things usually go south from there.
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#3380158 - 09/29/13 09:52 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: JAD]
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i use mono pods for note calling but have never for squirrels
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#3383476 - 10/01/13 08:12 PM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: ghostfive]
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#3421965 - 10/27/13 11:19 AM Re: Squirrel limit tips.... (long read) [Re: ghostfive]
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