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#3356059 - 09/11/13 08:23 PM Re: The reason I am not a year-round archer [Re: ImThere]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: ImThere
 Originally Posted By: catman529


When I shot today, I had to quit when I noticed I could not hold the bow as steady. Didn't count how many arrows I shot... somewhere from 1-2 dozen. Groups are still low and left... will adjust my sights within a day or two. I want my first shot of the day to always be good, because when I shoot a deer, that will almost always be my first shot of the day.

So are you saying the first shot of the day is on then they start to go left and low? If so form. But if you miss from the first shot move your sight and be done
no the first shot fits in with the rest of the group - currently low and left. As I get fatigued, the groups spread out. Didn't get to shoot today. Next time will bring the wrench and adjust the sight a bit.
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#3356201 - 09/11/13 09:41 PM Re: The reason I am not a year-round archer [Re: catman529]
deerhunter10
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I can see where your coming from I only started shooting year round about 3 years ago and it does help. but I still have days where I just cant get a good group or the group im looking for and I know its not the bow its me. I honestly just stop shooting for a few days. I think archery is more metal the people really realize if your not confident you wont shoot good. id say your form is probably alright you just need to get that confidence back in you and stop overthinking things. you'll get it figured out man
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#3356226 - 09/11/13 09:55 PM Re: The reason I am not a year-round archer [Re: deerhunter10]
Jake47
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Are you shooting at a block/bag target with circles on it or are you shooting at a 3D animal? I picked up a small tip from a friend who is one of the best I have seen when it comes to shooting a bow. He taught me that if you aim at the center of the circle (say 5 ring on a paper target) it is a little challenging to hold the pin in the same exact spot every time. So his suggestion was to sight the bow so that you hold your pin right on the bottom of the circle. It gives you a more definite point to shoot at than covering a circular target with a circular pin. My groups improved tremendously and it was so much more noticeable at 40+ yards.

I know that your issue is with the arrow placement, but it might help you from day to day if you have that tiny point of the circle to aim at. "Aim small. Miss small"!

Oh and about the caffeine. I traditionally take a 5 hour energy along for my all day sits. I've drawn on a few deer within 10-15 minutes of taking it and it can be pretty hard to keep the pin where you want it!

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#3356236 - 09/11/13 10:00 PM Re: The reason I am not a year-round archer [Re: Jake47]
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Your sights ain't gonna move themself. If you consistently off target move your sights. Shoot a few times and take a break and shoot some more.
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#3356258 - 09/11/13 10:19 PM Re: The reason I am not a year-round archer [Re: Jake47]
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Registered: 12/01/07
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 Originally Posted By: Jake47
Are you shooting at a block/bag target with circles on it or are you shooting at a 3D animal? I picked up a small tip from a friend who is one of the best I have seen when it comes to shooting a bow. He taught me that if you aim at the center of the circle (say 5 ring on a paper target) it is a little challenging to hold the pin in the same exact spot every time. So his suggestion was to sight the bow so that you hold your pin right on the bottom of the circle. It gives you a more definite point to shoot at than covering a circular target with a circular pin. My groups improved tremendously and it was so much more noticeable at 40+ yards.

I know that your issue is with the arrow placement, but it might help you from day to day if you have that tiny point of the circle to aim at. "Aim small. Miss small"!

Oh and about the caffeine. I traditionally take a 5 hour energy along for my all day sits. I've drawn on a few deer within 10-15 minutes of taking it and it can be pretty hard to keep the pin where you want it!


You bring up something I discovered by chance this year. I shoot much better at 20 when my pin is shooting a tad high. This allows me to let my pin float SLIGHTLY below the spot I intend to hit. This helps me let the pin float vs striving to keep my pin floating on the "x".

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#3357367 - 09/12/13 08:11 PM Re: The reason I am not a year-round archer [Re: UTGrad]
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I shoot better when I have to pick a spot on a 3D target or live deer that I do when I have to aim at a dot .
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#3359030 - 09/14/13 12:01 PM Re: The reason I am not a year-round archer [Re: Radar]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Radar
I shoot better when I have to pick a spot on a 3D target or live deer that I do when I have to aim at a dot .
I'm definitely more instinctive on a deer than on a target. On a target in trying to line it up perfect in the center of the O. But then I have also made a couple bad shots on deer, probably because it was a live deer and more stuff is running through my head and I pulled the shots. Well two bad/marginal shots came from shooting a moving deer, something I have to keep reminding myself not to do. When you have a fat buck snort wheezing at 7 yards, it's hard to remember to stop him before shooting! That mistake just about cost me the buck.
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