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#3355044 - 09/11/13 08:36 AM Re: Same buck??? [Re: REM7]
Bayou Buck
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It could very well be different deer. Either way its a shooter.
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#3355133 - 09/11/13 09:43 AM Re: Same buck??? [Re: BSK]
dgb7mm
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Left side crab claw one yr to a Right side crab claw doesn't seem likely!
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#3355235 - 09/11/13 10:45 AM Re: Same buck??? [Re: BSK]
morgancountry
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
I have absolutely no doubt that is the same buck.


Based on what? Not doubting your judgement or experience, I just want to know for my own learning. The deer from this year looks younger body wise.

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#3355239 - 09/11/13 10:52 AM Re: Same buck??? [Re: morgancountry]
Winchester
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I too think this is a different deer, very likely same Momma and could even be full brothers. The 2nd buck does not appear to be any older if not younger than the first. I see way more decline in the same basic rack configuration on old bucks than I do in complete changes in configuration, along with losing a ton of antler like is the case here. I also see many bucks with a lot of age start to grow 'junk' or short stickers as their rack decreases overall. I will agree closely related but I think different deer.
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#3355252 - 09/11/13 10:59 AM Re: Same buck??? [Re: BSK]
wobblegobble
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no way!Different
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#3355292 - 09/11/13 11:25 AM Re: Same buck??? [Re: BSK]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
I have absolutely no doubt that is the same buck.

I have absolutely no doubt that is either the same buck or a different buck. \:\)

Please share more of your thoughts with our inquiring minds.

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#3355491 - 09/11/13 01:03 PM Re: Same buck??? [Re: Wes Parrish]
morgancountry
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Winchester, if you look closely on this year's picture he has a kicker coming off his right antler at the base
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#3355523 - 09/11/13 01:30 PM Re: Same buck??? [Re: morgancountry]
BSK
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You can "never say never" about anything pertaining to deer, but there are far too many similarities between the two sets of antlers, even down to tiny little twists and bends of the G2s, plus the placement and size of the browtines, the matched shape of the beams, etc., to say that is a different buck. Near duplicate genetic shapes do turn up on the same property from time to time, but not that often. What I'm getting at is, statistically, it is far more likely that is the same buck than another buck showing up the following year, that was not around the previous year, and just happens to duplicate a high number of individual antler characteristics INCLUDING antler size.

Not saying it isn't possible to be another buck, but it's highly unlikely to be a different buck.
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#3355576 - 09/11/13 02:15 PM Re: Same buck??? [Re: Wes Parrish]
BowGirl
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Registered: 07/20/09
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish


Last year, his LEFT antler had a "crab" claw.
This year his RIGHT antler has a "crab" claw.


Yep different buck.

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#3355693 - 09/11/13 03:48 PM Re: Same buck??? [Re: BowGirl]
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 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish


Last year, his LEFT antler had a "crab" claw.
This year his RIGHT antler has a "crab" claw.


Yep different buck.


You all do realize that the buck's left antler, minus the G3 this year, produced an identical crab-claw shape both years (using just the beam and the G2)?
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