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#3348350 - 09/05/13 03:20 PM Private pond fertilzation
RobbyW
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Does anyone on here fertilize their ponds? I have a 1/2-3/4 acre pond and I was wanting to look into it. I was reading on Bio Logic perfect pond, but it scares me that you can actually kill off your pond. I have Bass, bluegill and a few Channel cats in it. They were all stocked before I bought the place 4 years ago. My bass just seem to be stunted. I catch a lot more bass than anything else, and I plan on adding some bluegill and about 20 more cats at the end of the month. Wondering if they just dont have enough food and hope the bluegill help with that. This is a "big" bass out of it.

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#3348445 - 09/05/13 04:50 PM Re: Private pond fertilzation [Re: RobbyW]
wjohnson1983
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My grandfather once upon a time owned his own pond management business. I don't know the exact numbers, but yes all ponds should be fertilized/limed to an extent. There is a water testing kit that will give your PH level and a colored disc to give visibility depth. Stunted fish is usually more a product of the numbers of fish in the pond. If the pond is over the carrying capacity, then there is not enough forage for growth. A certain poundage/length of each species needs to be removed each year and it needs to be done gradually throughout the year. A fish sample by a biologist will give you a better representation of the size/numbers in your pond.
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#3348564 - 09/05/13 06:56 PM Re: Private pond fertilzation [Re: wjohnson1983]
rukiddin?
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If you aggressively remove the largemouth you catch, you may not need to add a y bluegills. Bluegills reproduce very rapidly. Although it may be late into the year to see a noticeable increase in bluegills this year, you could still take out largemouths. Without the pressure from the lmb's in the spring, you will be surprised how quickly the bluegills will repopulate. Farm ponds can become unbalanced very quickly.
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#3348607 - 09/05/13 07:32 PM Re: Private pond fertilzation [Re: rukiddin?]
Diehard Hunter
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http://fwf.ag.utk.edu/Extension/pdfs/pond%20management%202009.pdf

http://tnfish.org/FarmPondManagement_TWRA/files/UTPondManagement.pdf
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#3349133 - 09/06/13 08:13 AM Re: Private pond fertilzation [Re: Diehard Hunter]
WMAn
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You can call TWRA for help. At certain times of the year, they will come out, seine your pond, and give you management recommendations.

It sounds and looks like you have too many bass. If this is the case, fertilization and adding bluegill will do nothing until you address your main problem.

My in-laws have a pond with the same problem. Based on what I've read, you will need to remove A LOT of bass, and it will take 2-3 years of heavy harvest to notice a difference.
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#3349158 - 09/06/13 08:27 AM Re: Private pond fertilzation [Re: WMAn]
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http://www.mdwfp.com/fishing-boating/pond-assistance/small-bass-issues.aspx
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#3351187 - 09/07/13 09:35 PM Re: Private pond fertilzation [Re: WMAn]
cmn
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You need to remove 25 pounds of bass per acre every year to maintain balance. I take care of private ponds and lakes as a business. TWRA has an excellent publication for the landowner to use. No two ponds are exactly alike. You will have to keep more bass out of a fertilized pond. This will also "color" the water and help keep unwanted algae growth from taking over.
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#3364232 - 09/18/13 09:49 AM Re: Private pond fertilzation [Re: cmn]
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I have no idea how expensive it is to buy minnows in bulk, but you might add some smaller forage fish to the mix as well if all your bass are on the little side. I've seen one pond that had larger bluegill and tons of tiny bass, and basically the bass ate all the little bream out and had nothing left to eat that was small enough.

Go in there with an ultralight spinning rod and a 2" curly tail grub and start catching those little guys out. Throw them in a bucket with an aerator and go stock a city pond! \:\)
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#3378964 - 09/29/13 11:30 AM Re: Private pond fertilzation [Re: Crosshairy]
pmtom_99
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Your first step should be to start removing your bass. 2nd step after that would be to start fertilizing, start that around april and apply once a month through the warmer months. If you feel like your bluegill population is low, add intermediate bluegill to your pond.
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