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#334269 - 08/09/07 08:48 PM Scope rankings according to SWFA:
vonb
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Guys,
For those of you that use higher-end scopes, do you agree with these scope rankings:

http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7452&PN=1&TPN=1

Tell me your thoughts.

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#334327 - 08/09/07 09:23 PM Re: Scope rankings according to SWFA: [Re: vonb]
Model70Man
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I would have to say that Meopta got the shaft on that ranking. The Meopta Meostar R1, their highest quality line, is leaps and bounds far superior to the Bushnell Elite 4200, Nikon Monarch, and the Zeiss Conquest. Optically it is right up there with Kahles, Zeiss Victory, and Swarovski. Number 5 is weird as well. Leupold Mark 4, VX-III, and VXL are rated as the same??? One would think the Mark 4 would be superior to the VX-III.

I would like to see an updated test on optics with the use of machines to spit out real numbers to test light transmission, clarity, etc... instead of what somebody thinks is better.
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#334863 - 08/10/07 08:20 AM Re: Scope rankings according to SWFA: [Re: Model70Man]
Hillbilly Hunter
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The Bushnell Elite 4200 is a piece of shiit. They can not hold a candle to the VX-III. Same goes with the Nikon Monarch. I have had both of these scopes and I will not make that mistake. The Luepolds and Ziess are probally the best for the money.
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#334868 - 08/10/07 08:21 AM Re: Scope rankings according to SWFA: [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
Hillbilly Hunter
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A BUshnell Elite 3200 cannot hold a candle to a VX-II. Who ever ranked these scopes were on crack.
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#334888 - 08/10/07 08:35 AM Re: Scope rankings according to SWFA: [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
TiminTN
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Such Happy Campers......

I don`t see much to fuss over myself.
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#334963 - 08/10/07 09:44 AM Re: Scope rankings according to SWFA: [Re: TiminTN]
Hillbilly Hunter
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Your experiences with these scopes have been much different than mine.
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#335068 - 08/10/07 11:20 AM Re: Scope rankings according to SWFA: [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
megalomaniac
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Overall reasonable rankings, gotta remember its not a list of 'what's the best scope made', but rather a weighted list of multiple factors.

Their definition of 'best scope' based on their ranking criteria may be completely different than yours or mine.

For example, the best optical glass is not ranked at the top tier probably because of cost. A $2700 US Optics scope is prohibitive to most of us. Is it a good value? Probably not to the guys making the list, but if you want the best/ most indestructable scope and your life depended on it, It'd be a steal at $2700.

The leupold Mark IV's and VX III's use the same glass. You get the fancy turrets with the Mark IV's which increases their functionality, but you get the cost advantage of the vx III's which makes them rank out similarly.

Honestly I think the B&L 4200's are close to leupys, not quite as good optically, but since they're cheaper, that probably ranks them up a little higher on the list.

I'm not sure about all the scopes on the top 3 tiers, but I think they're all at least a grand.

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#335163 - 08/10/07 12:35 PM Re: Scope rankings according to SWFA: [Re: megalomaniac]
Dr. Dickel
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I have got several B&L Elites (Bushnell 4200 now) and they have all got good glass in them. I like my Zeiss Conquest's better than any other brand I own, but will put my B&L's right there with all the Leupolds I have.
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#335263 - 08/10/07 01:16 PM Re: Scope rankings according to SWFA: [Re: Dr. Dickel]
Hillbilly Hunter
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The biggest difference is light gathering, and there is alot of difference to me. I made a believer of Redblood. I was counting points on a deer with a VX-III and he couldn't even see the deer through a 4200. (right at daylight)
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#335612 - 08/10/07 04:35 PM Re: Scope rankings according to SWFA: [Re: ]
TiminTN
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I really like the Nikons. I really like the Conquests. I am really warming up to Bausch & Lome, quick. I used to be in the golden ring rut myself.
PMC bought a really nice Nikon from me, and I have several Nikon Golds. The last new scope I bought was a Monarch 3.5-10 and put it on the Kimber 17HM2 Varminter. It was so clear, I almost used it on a deer rifle. May still.
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