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#3344388 - 09/02/13 07:38 AM Two 30.06 questions
dsa5455
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If you had 30 bullets and you knew that some were 180 grain and the rest were 150 grain but they were mixed together. Is there any way to tell the difference without any special equipment.
Secondly, I have 20 bullets that were given to me that look exactly like the 30.06 but the bottom says DEN 42. I know they are older bullets.

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#3344392 - 09/02/13 07:46 AM Re: Two 30.06 questions [Re: dsa5455]
DaveB
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I am concluding this is loaded ammunition.

Loaded rounds you have to weigh.

The headstamp DEN42 on the brass is military ammo from the Denver facility I imagine 1942.

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#3344411 - 09/02/13 08:13 AM Re: Two 30.06 questions [Re: DaveB]
dsa5455
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[quote=DaveB]I am concluding this is loaded ammunition.

Store bought.

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#3344419 - 09/02/13 08:26 AM Re: Two 30.06 questions [Re: dsa5455]
dsa5455
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Sorry, I was not clear. These are Remington Core-Loc bullets that the boxes were labeled 150 grain and 180 grain that have been mixed together. If I found someone with a scale then I should be able to distinguish between the two weights. Correct?

Thanks for the DEN 42 answer.

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#3344426 - 09/02/13 08:39 AM Re: Two 30.06 questions [Re: dsa5455]
FULLDRAWXX75
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 Originally Posted By: dsa5455
Sorry, I was not clear. These are Remington Core-Loc bullets that the boxes were labeled 150 grain and 180 grain that have been mixed together. If I found someone with a scale then I should be able to distinguish between the two weights. Correct?

Thanks for the DEN 42 answer.


Unless you purchased both boxes yourself and opened them, there is no telling what exactly either group truly is. I for one saved all my empty factory cases and boxes, when I started reloading, I used them..............but, put the new reloaded data on the boxes. Someone else may not have or just used the a box to store older military ammo in.

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#3344457 - 09/02/13 09:22 AM Re: Two 30.06 questions [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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'Bullets' should be obviously different by looking at them. Cartridges may appear the same if they have the same style bullet loaded into them. Weighing should segregate them because of the 30g bullet weight difference.
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#3344503 - 09/02/13 10:26 AM Re: Two 30.06 questions [Re: Plateau Hunter]
Rubberduck270
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Weighing would tell you for sure but the ogive of the two different bullets should be different enough to tell by looking.
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#3345036 - 09/02/13 07:40 PM Re: Two 30.06 questions [Re: Rubberduck270]
tug
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Den 42 is corrosive. If it is black tip, then it is armor piercing. The bullets are worth about .75 each pulled. Personally, I would not fire them. Any Den 42 ammo would not be good for hunting as they are non-expanding and possibly tracer which is a fire hazard.

For a bolt action rifle, you might get away with firing the other ammo. You might not with a M1 Garand. Those 180's might bend the operating rod.

I might use them to get rough zero, then refine the zero with fresh hunting ammo.

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#3345694 - 09/03/13 12:27 PM Re: Two 30.06 questions [Re: tug]
dsa5455
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I didn't see any difference between the two but I will take another look tonight when I get home.
Would there be much difference in the point of impact between these two bullets at ranges between 20-80 yards?
As for the DEN 42's I suppose they will stay in my gun safe until I figure out what to do with them.

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#3345729 - 09/03/13 12:49 PM Re: Two 30.06 questions [Re: dsa5455]
Rubberduck270
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Between 20-80 yards any point of impact change will be negligible in a hunting situation. Maybe 1/2" change between the two. Emphasis on the maybe.
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