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#3341902 - 08/30/13 01:18 PM Worst food plot weeds
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So what weeds do you endlessly battle in your food plots? Here's my Top 10 list, in descending order of difficulty:

Foxtail, Johnsongrass, Fescue, Broomsedge, Nutsedge, Crabgrass, Annual Lespedeza, Beefsteak Plant, Horseweed, and fireweed.
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#3341910 - 08/30/13 01:24 PM Re: Worst food plot weeds [Re: BSK]
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Beefsteak plant, nutsedge, and jap stiltgrass when I disk. That really the only 3 I have any issues with.
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#3341912 - 08/30/13 01:26 PM Re: Worst food plot weeds [Re: BSK]
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I don't really have a top ten because I probably don't manage my foodplots as well as some of yall. but Crabgrass is bad, Johnsongrass, Fescue, Orchid grass, sage grass(in the acidic areas) Puarilla mint(spelling?). Nimblewill, that Japanese nitwill(spelling) canada and bull thistles, lambsquaters, pigweed, pretty much everything imaginable.
I guess the one that gets on my nerves the most is the perilla mint(spelling.)

And before I knew what this mint stuff was, I let it grow and mature. I bushoggd it down in the late fall, seeds everywhere. Probably one of the biggest mistakes ever, but let me tell you a positive that was out of it. There where doves everywhere in this mint stuff eating the seeds. It may not be a big plus, but I thought it was cool. IT wasn't worth it though.


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#3341913 - 08/30/13 01:28 PM Re: Worst food plot weeds [Re: woodsman87]
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I actually thought that having johnsongrass and crabgrass would be good. I see deer eat crabgrass all the time. (I think that is what they eat.) I thought Johnson grass would be good for them too, its kinda like a wild millet.
Tell me if I am wrong.

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#3341929 - 08/30/13 01:46 PM Re: Worst food plot weeds [Re: woodsman87]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
I actually thought that having johnsongrass and crabgrass would be good. I see deer eat crabgrass all the time. (I think that is what they eat.) I thought Johnson grass would be good for them too, its kinda like a wild millet.
Tell me if I am wrong.


Deer very rarely eat grasses of any kind (with the exception of highly hybridized agricultural "grasses" like corn and grains). Deer do not have the digestive bacteria necessary to digest grasses.
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#3341930 - 08/30/13 01:48 PM Re: Worst food plot weeds [Re: smstone22]
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 Originally Posted By: smstone22
Beefsteak plant, nutsedge, and jap stiltgrass when I disk. That really the only 3 I have any issues with.


Do you not have issues with grasses?

The grasses are far more of a pest than any broadleaf weed in my plots. But I'm also beginning to realize much of my grass problem is due to bad timing in grass control. I'm hoping a couple of years of regular grass-specific herbicide applications across the spring and summer might greatly reduce my grass problems in the future.
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#3341932 - 08/30/13 01:50 PM Re: Worst food plot weeds [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
I actually thought that having johnsongrass and crabgrass would be good. I see deer eat crabgrass all the time. (I think that is what they eat.) I thought Johnson grass would be good for them too, its kinda like a wild millet.
Tell me if I am wrong.


Deer very rarely eat grasses of any kind (with the exception of highly hybridized agricultural "grasses" like corn and grains). Deer do not have the digestive bacteria necessary to digest grasses.


Did not know that. Thanks. I guess they are eating clover or something. I am no deer biologist, and I thought if cows loved crabgrass then the deer would too.

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#3341935 - 08/30/13 01:53 PM Re: Worst food plot weeds [Re: woodsman87]
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One of the main reasons I don't manage my food plots is becuase I don't really know what selective herbicides to use. I plant several different things into one foodplot. If I had more land to work with, I would make differnt plots different. Im talking I mix up rape, wheat, oats, austrian peas, different clovers. I am scared to put a pre-emerge on it because i am afraid it may backfire some how.
I also do not have a seed drill, so I always disc and I know that hurts with the weeds.
But, I do the best that I know how to do and thats all I can do at this point.

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#3341940 - 08/30/13 01:57 PM Re: Worst food plot weeds [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: smstone22
Beefsteak plant, nutsedge, and jap stiltgrass when I disk. That really the only 3 I have any issues with.


Do you not have issues with grasses?

The grasses are far more of a pest than any broadleaf weed in my plots. But I'm also beginning to realize much of my grass problem is due to bad timing in grass control. I'm hoping a couple of years of regular grass-specific herbicide applications across the spring and summer might greatly reduce my grass problems in the future.


Nope, not really of any meausurable level, except jap stiltgrass. There are no grasses for a long way around me though except for some NWSG that I maintain, just woods. Anytime Ive ever seen a small patch of fescue start coming in where a bird or something has dropped seed, I just nuke it. Probably has been 2 or 3 years since Ive even seen any fescue though. I see alot of pictures on here where folks dont keep their plots maintained through the Summer. They just wait til Fall, so there is weed seed everywhere. It is rare I ever let any weed go to seed or even bloom.
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#3341946 - 08/30/13 02:00 PM Re: Worst food plot weeds [Re: woodsman87]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
I actually thought that having johnsongrass and crabgrass would be good. I see deer eat crabgrass all the time. (I think that is what they eat.) I thought Johnson grass would be good for them too, its kinda like a wild millet.
Tell me if I am wrong.


Deer very rarely eat grasses of any kind (with the exception of highly hybridized agricultural "grasses" like corn and grains). Deer do not have the digestive bacteria necessary to digest grasses.


Did not know that. Thanks. I guess they are eating clover or something. I am no deer biologist, and I thought if cows loved crabgrass then the deer would too.


The environment of a deer's stomach is very different than the environment of a cow's stomach. A cow's stomach will grow and maintain the bacteria needed to break down grasses. A deer's stomach will not support these bacteria. When you see a deer out feeding in a pasture, they are not eating the grasses (on purpose), but are attempting to pick between the grass blades to reach broadleaf plants, such as clovers and other wild legumes and forbs.
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