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#3339670 - 08/28/13 04:55 PM bad 4 wheeler starter?
fishboy1
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4 wheeler has been acting up.
starter doesn't engage when you press the button. Give it a little kick and it moves off the bad spot and will crank with the starter button.

The neutral light/switch started acting up and not allowing the starter to crank. Now it wont come on at all even in neutral and the starter motor wont crank and you can't kick it over.

Is the starter bad, or could the neutral sensor be going bad..... or both?

Thanks
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#3339719 - 08/28/13 05:47 PM Re: bad 4 wheeler starter? [Re: fishboy1]
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A bad starter shouldn't prevent you from starting by kicking it over, unless you have a bad kill switch, or neutral switch. This makes me think the problem is probably not the starter, but If you have a meter, I'd suggest checking to see if you are getting 12 vdc to the starter relay, starter solenoid, and starter when you push the start button.
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#3340241 - 08/29/13 07:35 AM Re: bad 4 wheeler starter? [Re: dr]
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Sounds like the starter to me. I rebuild them at work all the time. Order a brush plate and brushes. About $30 versus $130-150 for a new one.
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#3340278 - 08/29/13 08:09 AM Re: bad 4 wheeler starter? [Re: Tn_River_Ratt]
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I had the exact same problem on my daughters timberwolf. Took the starter apart and tightened the two brush contact wires where they mount to the housing. Problem fixed. Also had the problem on my Johnson 150 with same repair and same results. Make sure when you tighten the little bolts that the lead does not contact the housing, this will cause a short. I usually put a jewelers screwdriver between the terminal end and the housing when tightening the bolt to ensure I dont make a short.

Edited by Unicam (08/29/13 08:11 AM)
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#3340424 - 08/29/13 10:13 AM Re: bad 4 wheeler starter? [Re: Unicam]
dr
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Starter might be bad... but before going to the trouble and expense of a rebuild, I would make sure it's getting 12vdc. If you have a bad switch, relay, connection, even a new starter won't work. I always start with the cheapest, most likely parts first.
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#3340595 - 08/29/13 12:46 PM Re: bad 4 wheeler starter? [Re: dr]
fishboy1
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I pulled the seat and battery box cover. Checked and wiggled all connections.... nothing.
Put everything back in the box and when I snapped the plastic battery box cover back on ... BING the green neutral light came on and the starter button cranked it over.

Im starting to think I have a bad wire issue going on. Ill see if I can chase it down this evening.

Thanks for all the replies, Ill keep ya posted.
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#3340622 - 08/29/13 01:05 PM Re: bad 4 wheeler starter? [Re: fishboy1]
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That was my suspicion. I'd check ground wire connection on battery, and frame, as well as positive connection on battery. Make sure battery terminals are clean, and cablestight. Check for pinched, broken wire inside insulation by pulling on wires. Battery cover may have damaged wire. Check battery voltage with engine not running, then check voltage with engine running. Voltage should be higher with engine running, if alternator, and wiring is good. Sounds like you're closing in on it. good luck!
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