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#3337980 - 08/27/13 01:48 PM Johnny Manziel Rumors are
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He will be declared' ineligible for the season tomorrow in NCAA what you guys think. Think the NCAA will really do it?
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#3338067 - 08/27/13 02:58 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: jos3ywales]
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Interesting to see if they do.
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#3338078 - 08/27/13 03:06 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: Sako]
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They will only do something if it involves a school like SMU.

I would be surprised if he got a major suspension

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#3338089 - 08/27/13 03:14 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: Doskil]
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#3338102 - 08/27/13 03:22 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: Wrangler95]
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might not but heard on three diff shows today he would be
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#3338126 - 08/27/13 03:42 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: jos3ywales]
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They must have proof he took money. If they have proof, they will bring the hammer down on him. if they don't have proof, they'll be keeping a very close eye on all his movements and actions. Anyone who thinks the NCAA favors Texas A&M over other schools hasn't watched the history of the NCAA very closely. They LOVE bringing the hammer down. It keeps them relevant.
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#3338133 - 08/27/13 03:45 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: BSK]
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6 hours meeting with the NCAA couldnt have been good yesterday with Johnny
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#3338157 - 08/27/13 04:04 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: jos3ywales]
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Nope...... Don't forget, it's the NCAA investigating this.... The only reason Pearl and Kiffin got caught was that the NCAA had pictures of the violations (picnic and orange pride at a H.S. game).
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#3338183 - 08/27/13 04:24 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: gator-n-buck]
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Don't even think for a second that the NCAA has to have concrete proof. They don't. All they have to have is a pair big enough to be sued if it comes to that. The thing about getting sued is that all of a sudden, all of the people that won't talk have to. Everyone knows Manziel got paid. Good luck to him trying to get a jury to side with him.
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#3338189 - 08/27/13 04:27 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: jos3ywales]
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 Originally Posted By: jos3ywales
6 hours meeting with the NCAA couldnt have been good yesterday with Johnny

you can bet the NCAA knew the answers to most of the questions they asked him.

he signed 4400 items on 5 or 6 occasions and he got nothing? the broker sells the stuff for $150,000-$200,000? come on
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#3338190 - 08/27/13 04:28 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: Hangnail]
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 Originally Posted By: Hangnail
Don't even think for a second that the NCAA has to have concrete proof. They don't. All they have to have is a pair big enough to be sued if it comes to that. The thing about getting sued is that all of a sudden, all of the people that won't talk have to. Everyone knows Manziel got paid. Good luck to him trying to get a jury to side with him.

THIS^^^^^^^
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#3338193 - 08/27/13 04:29 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: beachguy]
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 Originally Posted By: beachguy
 Originally Posted By: jos3ywales
6 hours meeting with the NCAA couldnt have been good yesterday with Johnny

you can bet the NCAA knew the answers to most of the questions they asked him.

he signed 4400 items on 5 or 6 occasions and he got nothing? the broker sells the stuff for $150,000-$200,000? come on


Oh, he got paid all right. Now the question is, does the NCAA believe it has the proof needed to defend a sanction? I have no idea...
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#3338199 - 08/27/13 04:33 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: beachguy]
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Link???? Or did u start the rumor???? \:\)
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#3338206 - 08/27/13 04:37 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: G8rntn]
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 Originally Posted By: G8rntn
Link???? Or did u start the rumor???? \:\)

Link?
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#3338224 - 08/27/13 04:45 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: beachguy]
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ESPN, TSR, Sports Animal all Radio
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#3338315 - 08/27/13 06:15 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: jos3ywales]
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My thinking is he either plays every game or he doesn't play at all this year. I don't see a 1 or 2 game suspension.

If I were making the call from A&M's standpoint, I'd play him. What do they have to lose? If they don't play him they're probably going to have a very rough season...if the do play him they may or may not have to vacate some games.

It may seem like this story is almost over now that the season is here...but it could be just getting started. What if A&M runs the table and proof is discovered in December that he was Paid? Talk about a BIG story.
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#3338341 - 08/27/13 06:51 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: BamaProud]
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I hope he plays, strictly for selfish reasons for me. It won't be a game between Alabama and A&M if he isn't on the field.

I hope he understands what he's given up by selling out early. If this didn't happen, he's a lifelong Aggie football hero for the duration of his life. When, not if, he's found out to be someone nobody can trust, he's just another guy that's thrown his talent and history away.

I think if the NCAA didn't totally screw up the Miami investigation, Manziel would be toast by now. During investigations gone by, all it took was the statement by someone or two that whatever happened, and boom, the hammer came down. There doesn't need to be tape, pictures, fingerprints, etc., that Manziel was paid, only someone to verify that he took money for his signitures. That's it.

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#3338350 - 08/27/13 06:59 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: Hangnail]
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Don't forget about Dez Bryant ats Ok State. It was never proven that he broke any NCAA regulations...and he missed the whole season. Not for breaking a rule, but for lying to NCAA officials. I don't think the NCAA wants to suspend him, there would be a public uproar if they did.
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#3338353 - 08/27/13 07:02 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: BamaProud]
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He took the majority of snaps in Monday's practice.

Sumlin obviously thinks he will be eligible.

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#3338391 - 08/27/13 07:19 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: PalsPal]
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If there is anyone that doesn't care what happens, it's Sumlin. He's a short-timer. Bigger program or NFL for him in, oh, say three years. If Johnny Bigtime hits the windshield, maybe less.
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#3338420 - 08/27/13 07:32 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: Hangnail]
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They did nothing to Cam Newton
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#3338438 - 08/27/13 07:41 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: beachguy]
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Negative, he will walk scotch free.
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#3338905 - 08/28/13 06:54 AM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: BamaProud]
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 Originally Posted By: BamaProud
Don't forget about Dez Bryant ats Ok State. It was never proven that he broke any NCAA regulations...and he missed the whole season. Not for breaking a rule, but for lying to NCAA officials. I don't think the NCAA wants to suspend him, there would be a public uproar if they did.


Dez admitted that about Deon.
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#3339009 - 08/28/13 08:21 AM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: BamaProud]
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 Originally Posted By: BamaProud
I don't think the NCAA wants to suspend him, there would be a public uproar if they did.


Are you kidding me? Everyone who is NOT an A&M fan wants him suspended.
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#3339025 - 08/28/13 08:36 AM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: BSK]
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It would simply be wrong if he were NOT suspended. It's the right thing to do period.
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#3339040 - 08/28/13 08:45 AM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: KENBOB10]
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 Originally Posted By: KENBOB10
It would simply be wrong if he were NOT suspended. It's the right thing to do period.


Although I would hate to see him not play, I agree. If the NCAA is going to be consistent with their rules, they have to suspend him after what they did to the Ohio State players for trading for tattoos.
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#3339067 - 08/28/13 09:05 AM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: Hangnail]
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 Originally Posted By: Hangnail
If there is anyone that doesn't care what happens, it's Sumlin. He's a short-timer. Bigger program or NFL for him in, oh, say three years. If Johnny Bigtime hits the windshield, maybe less.


Not true if any punishment by playing him extended beyond this season.

If he has assurance that any punishment would only apply to this season, then it is a no brainer to roll the dice.

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#3339132 - 08/28/13 10:05 AM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: BamaProud
I don't think the NCAA wants to suspend him, there would be a public uproar if they did.


Are you kidding me? Everyone who is NOT an A&M fan wants him suspended.


I am an Alabama fan and I don't really care if he gets suspended or not but I hope they do it after the alabama A&M game
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#3339138 - 08/28/13 10:11 AM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: Ckirk4bama]
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Who has the most to lose here?
The NCAA? Johnny Football? Texas A&M?
Follow the money folks, it's as simple as that.
The hypocrites were making $$'s off of his shirt sales until a week ago when they[NCAA] were called out publicly for doing so.
If nothing else, maybe this will be the catalyst needed to change some of the draconian rules that the NCAA has implemented.
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#3339271 - 08/28/13 11:46 AM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: Kingston]
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 Originally Posted By: Kingston
Who has the most to lose here?
The NCAA? Johnny Football? Texas A&M?
Follow the money folks, it's as simple as that.
The hypocrites were making $$'s off of his shirt sales until a week ago when they[NCAA] were called out publicly for doing so.
If nothing else, maybe this will be the catalyst needed to change some of the draconian rules that the NCAA has implemented.


Dang son, you using some big ole words!
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#3339277 - 08/28/13 11:55 AM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: KENBOB10]
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#3339345 - 08/28/13 12:49 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: Kingston]
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It hurt, but I pushed through and persevered.
You should give it a try sometime.
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#3339389 - 08/28/13 01:17 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
They must have proof he took money. If they have proof, they will bring the hammer down on him. if they don't have proof, they'll be keeping a very close eye on all his movements and actions. Anyone who thinks the NCAA favors Texas A&M over other schools hasn't watched the history of the NCAA very closely. They LOVE bringing the hammer down. It keeps them relevant.


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#3339695 - 08/28/13 05:12 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: G8rntn]
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 Originally Posted By: BamaProud
Don't forget about Dez Bryant ats Ok State. It was never proven that he broke any NCAA regulations...and he missed the whole season. Not for breaking a rule, but for lying to NCAA officials. I don't think the NCAA wants to suspend him, there would be a public uproar if they did.


Dez admitted that about Deon.


Yes he did, but having dinner with Deon at his home was not an NCAA violation. It would have been a violation at a restaurant if Deon paid. Dez was unsure if eating at his house was a violation so he lied. ...that is what they nailed him on, merely saying the dinner never happened.
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#3339698 - 08/28/13 05:14 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BamaProud
I don't think the NCAA wants to suspend him, there would be a public uproar if they did.


Are you kidding me? Everyone who is NOT an A&M fan wants him suspended.


That isn't what I hear. I enjoyed watching him play last year. He is fun to watch. Everyone I hear on radio and TV wants him to play.
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#3339699 - 08/28/13 05:16 PM Re: Johnny Manziel Rumors are [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK


Although I would hate to see him not play, I agree. If the NCAA is going to be consistent with their rules, they have to suspend him after what they did to the Ohio State players for trading for tattoos.


When has the NCAA ever been consistent. Well...I guess they are consistently inconsistent. Also, regarding the OH State players...Johnny Manziell's suspension that came down today didn't have anything to do with him(a player) swapping money or goods for money or goods. It had to do with a bylaw that says Johnny should have been aware that the signatures would be used for someone else) financial gains.


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