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#3354372 - 09/10/13 07:19 PM Re: Cardio won't get your ripped... [Re: -DRM-]
VolHunter22
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Lifting + High Intensity Interval Training + a good diet will do the best.
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#3356259 - 09/11/13 10:20 PM Re: Cardio won't get your ripped... [Re: -DRM-]
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I disaggree.When I decided I wanted to lose weight and slim down,all I did was RUN..And RUN.Built myself up to where I can run 5 miles comfortably and thats what I usually run.I don't lift,and I don't diet,I never have.I've lost 80 lbs doing this.Only dieting I have done is not eat after 6pm,and gave up soft drinks,and only drink water.I still eat what I want and how much ever I want through the day,and I definatly have a defined 6 pack now. Some days I run more than 5 miles and some I run 4,but never under 4, 4 is the minimum I will run,If I don't have time to run 4 miles I don't even bother with it.I log 25-30 miles a week.
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#3356662 - 09/12/13 10:35 AM Re: Cardio won't get your ripped... [Re: cecil30-30]
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 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
If I don't have time to run 4 miles I don't even bother with it.I log 25-30 miles a week.


I'm with you on that. Running 2 miles seems pointless to me unless it is the extension of a larger workout. When I am feeling burned out on my usual 4-5 mile run, I hop on my bike and ride a couple of miles to some trails and go trail running and do stair steps on blown down trees. On these days, I never pay attention to mileage, just length of work out at a minimum of 60 minutes. Less than a hour doesn't seem worth the effort to me.
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#3360245 - 09/15/13 03:29 PM Re: Cardio won't get your ripped... [Re: Poser]
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Here's the best analogy I can offer:

Consider two Olympians: one is a 100m sprinter and the other a 10km runner.

The sprinter is a far superior athlete in my opinion. Bigger, faster, stronger. A sprinter will use heavy weight training, running, plyometrics, etc.

The distance runner has low body fat % but is essentially emaciated.

They may each have a "6-pack" but the level of fitness is considerable different. Here's a picture for comparison purposes:

http://strongmanathletics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/sprinter-vs-distance.jpg

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#3360824 - 09/15/13 11:49 PM Re: Cardio won't get your ripped... [Re: Outdoor Enthusiast]
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In what world do you consider a long distance runner not athletic?
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#3360936 - 09/16/13 07:00 AM Re: Cardio won't get your ripped... [Re: TAFKAP]
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i prefer to run about 6-7 and then bike around 10-12. of course time becomes an issue
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#3360953 - 09/16/13 07:19 AM Re: Cardio won't get your ripped... [Re: redblood]
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Guys, I didn't say running would not help you lose weight. I'm talking about the last bit to get RIPPED, and that takes effort to cut out the subcutaneous fat that hides muscle definition.

Cardio alone simply won't do that.
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#3361106 - 09/16/13 09:52 AM Re: Cardio won't get your ripped... [Re: TAFKAP]
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 Originally Posted By: TAFKAP
In what world do you consider a long distance runner not athletic?


In the real world.

Athleticism is far more than running long distances. When one considers athleticism, what traits would you use to measure the level of athelticism?

Better yet if you could throw a big group of exercises in a hopper to test athletes, what would they be? And how would a sprinter compare to a marathoner?

I would expect to see some of the following: Push ups, pull ups, squats, sprints, plyometrics, lift something heavy and move it a distance, run 5k, throw an object, run maximum distance in set time, etc.

It's safe to say that a sprinter would win most every test excluding the longer time domain endurance event.

Here's a visual aid:

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#3361112 - 09/16/13 09:58 AM Re: Cardio won't get your ripped... [Re: -DRM-]
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 Originally Posted By: -DRM-
Guys, I didn't say running would not help you lose weight. I'm talking about the last bit to get RIPPED, and that takes effort to cut out the subcutaneous fat that hides muscle definition.

Cardio alone simply won't do that.


Diet is simply the best way to do that. If you are looking for a recipe to having low body-fat percentage look to Muscle and Fitness. Bodybuilders have perfected the art of cutting body fat.

Granted, it's very hard to maximize performance while being that lean. Bodybuilders often only stay that way for a short period of time.

In my opinion, a "Primal" diet is more preferred over a paleo diet when you want to maximize performance. Or the zone diet which is tailored specifically for your level of activity and body mass. Only bad part of zone is you have to weigh your food on a scale until you get it figured out.

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#3361115 - 09/16/13 10:00 AM Re: Cardio won't get your ripped... [Re: Outdoor Enthusiast]
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I don't need to see the same pictures comparing the physiques of two different types of athletes.

By your definition, the meatheads that spend all their time in front of the mirrors at the gym building muscles are no more an athlete than a couch hog who can't run a mile.

If long distance running isn't athletic, I'm curious to know your marathon time that would lead you to that conclusion.
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