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#3328952 - 08/20/13 09:09 AM Re: What do you believe? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
When the U.S. is eventually forced to implement "austerity measures" (cut back on overspending), the "Occupy Wall Street" types will certainly riot, as they have in Greece and France. However, that doesn't worry me anywhere near as much as the scenario of a Leftist government eventually pushing Conservatives over the edge into Civil War. That would be a disaster for the U.S.--something we might not be able to recover from.


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THAT is what will happen.

Guys, we are NOT talking about end times but the downfall of the American govt that was based on the US Constitution. Push enough and their WILL be a second Civil War.

One thing is wrong on this thread, we have NEVER been though anything like this since the Civil War of 1861-65. There has NEVER been a govt that has discarded the US Constitution and the rules and laws as this one has. Three presidents were impeached or about to be impeached for far LESS than this one has gotten away with. Today they are OPENLY changing the rules and laws at will without following the rules set down in the US Constitution. They are not ever trying to hide it.

End times means the end of the world and everybody killed. That will not happen here over this. What will happen will be a Civil War with millions dying but not all. The ones still around will have to spend their entire lives starting over with very little. Forget about all the luxuries you have today like new trucks, new bows, new guns, vacations, etc. We and our children will live poorly just trying to get by.
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#3328953 - 08/20/13 09:09 AM Re: What do you believe? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
When the U.S. is eventually forced to implement "austerity measures" (cut back on overspending), the "Occupy Wall Street" types will certainly riot, as they have in Greece and France. However, that doesn't worry me anywhere near as much as the scenario of a Leftist government eventually pushing Conservatives over the edge into Civil War. That would be a disaster for the U.S.--something we might not be able to recover from.


That is where we are right now. Conservatives sitting on their hands while the left is dismantling individualism through legislation.
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#3328982 - 08/20/13 09:28 AM Re: What do you believe? [Re: Wildcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
 Originally Posted By: BSK
When the U.S. is eventually forced to implement "austerity measures" (cut back on overspending), the "Occupy Wall Street" types will certainly riot, as they have in Greece and France. However, that doesn't worry me anywhere near as much as the scenario of a Leftist government eventually pushing Conservatives over the edge into Civil War. That would be a disaster for the U.S.--something we might not be able to recover from.


X2

THAT is what will happen.

Guys, we are NOT talking about end times but the downfall of the American govt that was based on the US Constitution. Push enough and their WILL be a second Civil War.

One thing is wrong on this thread, we have NEVER been though anything like this since the Civil War of 1861-65. There has NEVER been a govt that has discarded the US Constitution and the rules and laws as this one has. Three presidents were impeached for far LESS than this one has gotten away with. Today they are OPENLY changing the rules and laws at will without following the rules set down in the US Constitution.

End times means the end of the world and everybody killed. That will not happen here over this. What will happen will be a Civil War with millions dying but not all. The ones still around will have to spend their entire lives starting over with very little. Forget about all the luxuries you have today like new trucks, new bows, new guns, vacations, etc. We and our children will live poorly just trying to get by.



I just wonder what will be the straw that breaks the camels back?
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#3328993 - 08/20/13 09:36 AM Re: What do you believe? [Re: Bottom Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
This country survived a civil war.

This country survived the 60s....

This country survived George Bush....

it will survive this.



What / where this country is today is of no comparison to any of what you posted..... even what many say about Bush, he was a saint compared to what the Obamanation is....

Will it survive this??? Only time will tell but based on things in the news that's happening all over the country.... times will get worse before they get better.
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#3329020 - 08/20/13 09:59 AM Re: What do you believe? [Re: Kevin]
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 Originally Posted By: Kevin

I just wonder what will be the straw that breaks the camels back?


At some point, a Leftist government will believe they have the support of a large enough percentage of the American people to implement some type of radical law, most likely gun registration/confiscation, or some type of surveillance/police state.
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#3329125 - 08/20/13 11:12 AM Re: What do you believe? [Re: BSK]
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The core of America, the people that keep the wheels on the track and the whole country moving forward, have grown weary. Weary of the entitlements, weary of the un-motivated, weary of the politics, weary of the taxation. They have become aware that they are being used as plow horses to keep the big machine rolling along. (while others ride on the wagons and complain about the view)

As this awareness grows, so does the discontent. The final straw will probably be some "social good" that is promoted, promulgated and stamped into law. That final slap in the face that stirs the fires of Patriotism from a small ember into a raging fire. The day that the wheels stop turning.

When this occurs, it will become very evident why the current administration is so keen on gun bans and registration. Although generations removed, we are the descendants of the Patriots, that once stood up and said I WILL ENDURE NO MORE.

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#3329139 - 08/20/13 11:28 AM Re: What do you believe? [Re: Kirk]
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"What do you believe?"

If we don't rite the ship, I fear what I believe will be next.
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#3329194 - 08/20/13 12:17 PM Re: What do you believe? [Re: Kirk]
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 Originally Posted By: Kirk
The core of America, the people that keep the wheels on the track and the whole country moving forward, have grown weary. Weary of the entitlements, weary of the un-motivated, weary of the politics, weary of the taxation. They have become aware that they are being used as plow horses to keep the big machine rolling along. (while others ride on the wagons and complain about the view)

As this awareness grows, so does the discontent. The final straw will probably be some "social good" that is promoted, promulgated and stamped into law. That final slap in the face that stirs the fires of Patriotism from a small ember into a raging fire. The day that the wheels stop turning.

When this occurs, it will become very evident why the current administration is so keen on gun bans and registration. Although generations removed, we are the descendants of the Patriots, that once stood up and said I WILL ENDURE NO MORE.


Excellent post Kirk.

I've often wondered what would happen if working Americans simply went on strike. They all stop working until the entitlement machine is destroyed. No crops grown, harvested or delivered, no meat butchered or delivered, no gasoline refined or delivered, no paper produced for the printing of the New York Times and the other Left-Wing rags, no coal mined or delivered to the electric power-plants...

That would be interesting...
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#3329257 - 08/20/13 01:01 PM Re: What do you believe? [Re: BSK]
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Excellent post Kirk.

I've often wondered what would happen if working Americans simply went on strike. They all stop working until the entitlement machine is destroyed. No crops grown, harvested or delivered, no meat butchered or delivered, no gasoline refined or delivered, no paper produced for the printing of the New York Times and the other Left-Wing rags, no coal mined or delivered to the electric power-plants...

That would be interesting...


I believe this would now be impossible. There isn't a small fraction of enough folks who could sustain themselves these days for enough time to topple the machine. When Patriots rose up and won our independence to start this country, folks were already, for the most part, self-sufficient. Now, even for myself, I'm saddened by the lack of self preservation we, as a country, now have. \:\(
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#3329322 - 08/20/13 01:53 PM Re: What do you believe? [Re: MUP]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK


Excellent post Kirk.

I've often wondered what would happen if working Americans simply went on strike. They all stop working until the entitlement machine is destroyed. No crops grown, harvested or delivered, no meat butchered or delivered, no gasoline refined or delivered, no paper produced for the printing of the New York Times and the other Left-Wing rags, no coal mined or delivered to the electric power-plants...

That would be interesting...


I believe this would now be impossible. There isn't a small fraction of enough folks who could sustain themselves these days for enough time to topple the machine. ..... \:\(

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This, sadly.
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