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#3328172 - 08/19/13 04:09 PM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: AndyW]
Backstrapcrazy
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Saw one in "Cades Cove" , that one had some Orange color to it. Do they change as they get bigger?
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#3328236 - 08/19/13 05:09 PM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: JeepKuntry]
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 Originally Posted By: JeepKuntry
Pretty snake, but I hate snakes. That being said, if it's poisonous you should be allowed to kill it.

Yep I agree
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#3328660 - 08/19/13 11:30 PM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: JeepKuntry]
stik
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 Originally Posted By: JeepKuntry
Pretty snake, but I hate snakes. That being said, if it's poisonous you should be allowed to kill it.


why? if it is not in your yard or populated area and is no threat, it should be left alone. that snake belongs there.
oh, and there are no poisonous snakes. ;\)

this one is still crawling around morgan co. somewhere:
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#3328750 - 08/20/13 06:06 AM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: JeepKuntry]
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 Originally Posted By: JeepKuntry
Pretty snake, but I hate snakes. That being said, if it's poisonous you should be allowed to kill it.


That snake was in an area of the refuge that I'm willing to bet won't see 10 people a year in there. Killing it never crossed my mind. Venomous or not...if you stop and think about it, snakes are pretty defenseless creatures. They can't help it if some idiot goes bumbling around in the woods with his head up his a$$ and steps on one and gets bit. \:D \:D

First thing I told my wife when we got off the boat was to stay behind me and watch out for snakes...I was 50 feet from it when I saw it. Of course I kept walking til we were 10 feet away before I pointed it out to my wife. LoL...I thought I was going to see someone walk on the water...

Snakes are good...pay attention and leave them alone.
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#3328774 - 08/20/13 06:41 AM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: BuckWild]
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My ex-wife was bitten back in 1994 by a cottonmouth. After about 5 hours of agonizing pain, the snake finally died. LOL \:\)

Seriously though, she was bitten and it was in our front yard. She was wearing a dress and nylons. Although the fangs punctured the skin, the nylon stockings acted like a strainer and kept the poison from going into her body. It was pretty miraculous I thought... The Dr kept her under observation for about 3 hours, gave her a script for antibiotics and sent her home... As a side-note, I passed a state trooper on the way to the ER and I was going 115mph. The trooper followed us all the way to the hospital and when I pulled into the hospital, he turned off his lights. He came into the ER a few minutes later, asked a few questions and left. That was one sunday morning I'll never forget. I hate snakes.
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#3328776 - 08/20/13 06:45 AM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: Rebel]
stik
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 Originally Posted By: Rebel
My ex-wife was bitten back in 1994 by a cottonmouth. After about 5 hours of agonizing pain, the snake finally died. LOL \:\)

Seriously though, she was bitten and it was in our front yard. She was wearing a dress and nylons. Although the fangs punctured the skin, the nylon stockings acted like a strainer and kept the poison from going into her body. It was pretty miraculous I thought... The Dr kept her under observation for about 3 hours, gave her a script for antibiotics and sent her home... As a side-note, I passed a state trooper on the way to the ER and I was going 115mph. The trooper followed us all the way to the hospital and when I pulled into the hospital, he turned off his lights. He came into the ER a few minutes later, asked a few questions and left. That was one sunday morning I'll never forget. I hate snakes.


many times a defensive bite is "dry". injecting no venom.
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#3328825 - 08/20/13 07:31 AM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: stik]
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A buddy and I were on a hog hunt in Cherokee National Forest a couple years back and met some fellas on the trail that were a little shaken up. It seems hiking up the trail in the dark one of them stepped over something and a Timber Rattler struck him and the fangs hung in his brush pants for a few seconds and he knocked his buddies down as he ran past them dragging the snake. Now, they said the wet spot on his pants was venom but I know what it would have been if it had been me......
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#3328900 - 08/20/13 08:33 AM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: stik]
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 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: Rebel
My ex-wife was bitten back in 1994 by a cottonmouth. After about 5 hours of agonizing pain, the snake finally died. LOL \:\)

Seriously though, she was bitten and it was in our front yard. She was wearing a dress and nylons. Although the fangs punctured the skin, the nylon stockings acted like a strainer and kept the poison from going into her body. It was pretty miraculous I thought... The Dr kept her under observation for about 3 hours, gave her a script for antibiotics and sent her home... As a side-note, I passed a state trooper on the way to the ER and I was going 115mph. The trooper followed us all the way to the hospital and when I pulled into the hospital, he turned off his lights. He came into the ER a few minutes later, asked a few questions and left. That was one sunday morning I'll never forget. I hate snakes.


many times a defensive bite is "dry". injecting no venom.


Exactly. The nylons couldn't possibly have acted like a "strainer," as the injecting fangs were already through them and in her skin.

My brother is an ER Doc in the desert southwest. He sees rattlesnake bites almost weekly. The vast majority are "dry" bites. The snake just strikes to get you away from it.
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#3328966 - 08/20/13 09:15 AM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
My brother is an ER Doc in the desert southwest. He sees rattlesnake bites almost weekly. The vast majority are "dry" bites. The snake just strikes to get you away from it.


I asked an ER doctor in Georgia about the snake bites he had seen. He shared with me that at least 90% were alcohol related and ALL were cases of someone trying to either catch or kill the snake.

I realize this is just one ER doctor's view and nothing conclusive, but thought the alcohol statistic was very interesting.
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#3329032 - 08/20/13 10:07 AM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: AndyW]
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 Originally Posted By: AndyW
 Originally Posted By: BSK
My brother is an ER Doc in the desert southwest. He sees rattlesnake bites almost weekly. The vast majority are "dry" bites. The snake just strikes to get you away from it.


I asked an ER doctor in Georgia about the snake bites he had seen. He shared with me that at least 90% were alcohol related and ALL were cases of someone trying to either catch or kill the snake.

I realize this is just one ER doctor's view and nothing conclusive, but thought the alcohol statistic was very interesting.


My brother said the VAST majority of bites he sees are on the hand--because the person was trying to catch the snake.
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