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#338530 - 08/12/07 09:57 PM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: Mike Belt]
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 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
wcsd...In an ideal setup land management practices would incorporate both food sources and available cover. One without the other will certainly put meat on the table but they do directly benefit one another. I have hunted a sizeable property where food sources were outstanding and yet we didn't have much cover. Prior to deer season we "held" alot of deer. Even after season started the deer utilized our property heavily but increasingly into the season that usage was nocturnal. That could be expected simply because of hunting pressure but the deer sought out heavier cover thus moving them off our property during shooting hours. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that I don't know that food sources alone is the best criteria for a hunting situation.


The same thing I see every year. We have a tough time holding the deer but really can only do so much for cover since the owner doesn't want any trees taken down.
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#338709 - 08/13/07 04:57 AM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: 156p&y]
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Feed wild animals.

Make them healthy.

Herd increases in size and carrying capacity of land is artificially increased...temporarily.

Stop feeding animals articicially...(i.e. supplemental feeding)

Animals die...

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#338719 - 08/13/07 05:24 AM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: 102]
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Mike
I have only 50 acres to play with, but I have set aside about a 5 acre track that is a cedar thicket that I stay away from.
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#339065 - 08/13/07 09:50 AM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: wcsd462]
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 Originally Posted By: wcsd462
Age is the first key in killing big deer, second is genetics,{cast do anything about that} third is nutrition, that is where I can help out and at the same time I may see more deer while I am hunting hell I may even help grow the buck of my lifetime.

Age and nutrition are going to be more important than genetics for big/healthy deer. So are keeping the deer within the carrying capacity of the land and having good sex ratios and age structures.
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#339133 - 08/13/07 11:03 AM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: Greg .]
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As I mentioned previously, I hate discussing this topic.

People are going to do whatever they want to do, regardless of "the facts." Even when they understand that smoking absolutely shortens your life and gives you a 50/50 chance of developing smoking related cancer, they will still smoke.

It doesn't matter how clear it is that obesity shortens life-spans and is one of the leading causes of destructive maladies like heart disease and diabetes, people are still going to over-eat and get fat.

No matter how often you point out that feeding wildlife has been proven to cause devastating disease outbreaks that destroy local economies (see the cattle industry of MI due to the spread of bovine tuberculosis by artificial feeding of deer), and cause inumerable other wildlife and habitat related damage, they are still going to feed deer.

People are always going to take what they believe to be the easy route to accomplish what they want, even if the "easy route" is dangerous and when much safer yet more long-term alternatives exist. We want want we want, and we want it now, future be damned.
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#339150 - 08/13/07 11:17 AM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Kevin,

Feeding corn doesn't grow big deer. Protein grows bigger deer.


Which is why I do most of my supplemental feeding with high protein deer pellets . And starting this year god willing and a new tractor high protein yeilding food plots..
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#339282 - 08/13/07 01:11 PM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: 89montero]
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what kind protein pellets are you feeding. i have tried a few but the deer did not seem to like it, just rotted.

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#339299 - 08/13/07 01:28 PM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: BSK]
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Well said, Bryan.

I was going to type something along the lines of you can lead a horse to water, but can't make him drink. Thanks for all the good info.

But that's the way folks are. I reckon it stems from some sort of survival mechanism -- expend the least amount of energy and get things NOW, for there may not be a tomorrow. Maybe that's why some folks' finances are in such a mess, too. ;\)
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#339324 - 08/13/07 01:51 PM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: Greg .]
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Absolutely Greg. Our ability to always find the quickest route to the desired result/goal is what has made us such a successful species. As far as we know, we are the only animal capable of reasoning through a problem before we act. All other animals learn by trial and error.
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#340920 - 08/14/07 09:40 AM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: brier rabbit]
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 Originally Posted By: brier rabbit
89montero

what kind protein pellets are you feeding. i have tried a few but the deer did not seem to like it, just rotted.


You have to keep the dry. We use the legends deer feed pellets. We mixed them with corn then slowly add less and less to the mix. I'm not doing this on my property in TN but on a lease in GA.

I hope to get my food plots in on my TN farm this late summer and early fall.
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