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#335583 - 08/10/07 04:23 PM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: brier rabbit]
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I don't believe smoking contributes to emphysema. My buddy smoked for a couple years when we were teenagers, and he doesn't have it 30 years later.

Folks, anecdotal evidence doesn't mean squat.
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#336175 - 08/10/07 10:39 PM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: brier rabbit]
wcsd462
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Kevin.....NICE pic's!
I dont see the difference either, they are eating together whether at a feeder or in a corn field.
As dry as it is in Tennessee right now wouldnt this be the time for feeding? Everything else has burned up.
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#336263 - 08/11/07 12:17 AM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: wcsd462]
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I do think this year is a good year to feed the deer. With
the Freeze killing off alot earlier in the year and now the lack of rain and extreme temperatures. Crops are poor, feed trees supposedly are lacking ...I prefer food plots. I can see how feed
out of a single station could possibly spread disease which is one good reason to use a feeder that broadcasts the feed and also to relocate it often. Acorns fall in the same area year after year also and deer eat behind other deer frequently so this can be argued alot of ways WHO KNOWS.
Plant a plot and hide in your spot.
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#336306 - 08/11/07 06:23 AM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: brier rabbit]
BSK
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Kevin,

Feeding corn doesn't grow big deer. Protein grows bigger deer.
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#336308 - 08/11/07 06:37 AM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: wcsd462]
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 Originally Posted By: wcsd462
Kevin.....NICE pic's!
I dont see the difference either, they are eating together whether at a feeder or in a corn field.
As dry as it is in Tennessee right now wouldnt this be the time for feeding? Everything else has burned up.


Deer eat at a feeder and feed in a field or on acorns in a different manner. In natural feeding situations, deer are not puting their mouths in the same places. Feeders spread disease--proven fact.

This drought has been a perfect example of why food plots aren't the answer for providing a local deer herd's nutritional intake. Food plots fail in droughts. Yet the natural habitat does not. Native plants are naturally drought tolerant. My food plots are all brown and dead, but the weeds growing right next to the plots are in fantastic shape and show little signs of drought effects. And the deer are pounding them, as they should. Feed your deer with the native habitat. Use food plots to provide higher-quality foods that what naturally exist. Never expect to "carry" a deer herd with food plots.
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#336309 - 08/11/07 06:43 AM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: brier rabbit]
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Dark Thirty II wrote:
If my state allows it, and there are continuously growing numbers of deer or stabilized herds, then they must know something.

State allow baiting/feeding because hunters demand it and/or politicians demand it (due to hunter pressure), not because it is good for the deer. And most states that allow baiting are rethinking that policy due to health concerns.


If I saw it as something detrimental to the herd, then I would rethink the situation,...

Are you sure about that? I can give you scientific proof it is detrimental, but I strongly suspect you would ignore that. We humans have a bad habitat of looking for the quick and easy route to whatever we want to acheive, and will ignore or refute anything that stands in our way.


...but as for right now we can simply agree to disagree.

I can live with that.

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#336310 - 08/11/07 06:43 AM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: BSK]
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Good post Greg.
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#336319 - 08/11/07 07:18 AM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: BSK]
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Good post Greg.





This buck was grown without kernal number one fed to him, so it must prove feeding doesn't work. Right?

Bottom line, there is a wealth of information that shows the negatives aspects of supplemental feeding in wild animals. Can anyone present any scientific evidence that shows it's a beneficial practice in a wild herd?



Edited by BigGameGuy (08/11/07 08:30 AM)
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#336428 - 08/11/07 09:12 AM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: wcsd462]
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Blah, Blah, Blah, I have a degree in this and that and know everything. Good thing your arms are long to pat yourself on the back all day! I have a house of 7 and a degree in "If it's brown it's down"! Feed'em , grow'em, clean'em and eat'em.
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#336789 - 08/11/07 06:46 PM Re: Feeding Deer [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Dark Thirty II wrote:
If my state allows it, and there are continuously growing numbers of deer or stabilized herds, then they must know something.

State allow baiting/feeding because hunters demand it and/or politicians demand it (due to hunter pressure), not because it is good for the deer.

BSK is right again. Michigan has a 2 gallon limit on bait piles. According to DNR big game specialist Rod Clute, the 2 gallon limit is a good compromise between those who want bait banned, and those who want to dump a pick-up load in the woods. Michigan does not have a 2 gallon limit because it is good for the deer. Michigan has a 2 gallon limit because that keeps the least number of hunters from complaining.
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