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#3327687 - 08/19/13 09:15 AM Re: Anyone using red clover anymore? [Re: Bayou Buck]
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 Originally Posted By: Bayou Buck
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But we've found that if we mow in late July and spray with a grass-killer, we can get the crimson to sprout and produce nice growth by August (with adequate rainfall).


I spray end of June/ early July every year and my crimson seems to come back up in August. Took this pic of the Crimson this past weekend.




We are doing the same thing. But also adding some arrowleaf in with crimson.
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#3327792 - 08/19/13 10:30 AM Re: Anyone using red clover anymore? [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
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I have crimson and arrowleaf mixed into my fall plantings, but I'm think of spreading red clover in spring to fill in any gaps during the summer. Red clover tested exceptionally well in every food plot variety test I've seen, both for tonnage, utilization, preference, and nutritional content.
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#3327795 - 08/19/13 10:31 AM Re: Anyone using red clover anymore? [Re: Boll Weevil]
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Just to make sure I understand, are you guys overseeding with that red a little each year or is it all coming back from it's own seed that is produced/deposited? How many years are you getting from 1 planting before having to start over?


I'm looking at that. Red clovers are bi-annuals, in that they last two years. Then they need to be reseeded. That is, in theory. I know of red clover pastures (cut for hay) that are productive every year without any reseeding.
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#3327817 - 08/19/13 10:47 AM Re: Anyone using red clover anymore? [Re: BSK]
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Got it. I'm all about plantings that are self-sustaining, long lived, and require little maintenance. Like Mr. Parrish mentions above, I typically don't hunt over these...they are only to build the year-round food availability and provide bugging for turkeys.

It's worked just as planned but had considered overseeding with another variety (or even 2 others) to perhaps extend availability and tonnage even further. Might look into this, but my only concern is Durana (what I have now) is really competitive and I don't know if it would eventually choke out the reds.

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#3327840 - 08/19/13 11:12 AM Re: Anyone using red clover anymore? [Re: Boll Weevil]
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 Originally Posted By: Boll Weevil

It's worked just as planned but had considered overseeding with another variety (or even 2 others) to perhaps extend availability and tonnage even further. Might look into this, but my only concern is Durana (what I have now) is really competitive and I don't know if it would eventually choke out the reds.


If you already have a warm-season perennial clover in your plots, I would NOT add an annual to them. I'm only considering summer red clover because I have nothing else growing in the plots in mid-summer.
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#3327849 - 08/19/13 11:15 AM Re: Anyone using red clover anymore? [Re: BSK]
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8 POINTS,

I have crimson and arrowleaf mixed into my fall plantings, but I'm think of spreading red clover in spring to fill in any gaps during the summer. Red clover tested exceptionally well in every food plot variety test I've seen, both for tonnage, utilization, preference, and nutritional content.


We planted 50 lbs of red in our crimson and arrowleaf plots last year. The deer do use it, but I like to spray the crimson and arrowleaf with gly around the 1st of July after they have made seed and went dormant. The problem with that is it will kill the red out. We trying to get our plots so that we don't have to replant every year. We have went to almost all clover plots with crimson and arrowleaf on the ridge top plots and Durana in the hollow plots.


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#3327867 - 08/19/13 11:34 AM Re: Anyone using red clover anymore? [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
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I was hoping I could just continue to use grass-killing herbicides to control the grasses, and mowing to contain the broadleaf weeds.
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#3328034 - 08/19/13 02:32 PM Re: Anyone using red clover anymore? [Re: BSK]
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[quote=BSK]I was hoping I could just continue to use grass-killing herbicides to control the grasses, and mowing to contain the broadleaf weeds.
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Exactly what I do.

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#3328322 - 08/19/13 06:32 PM Re: Anyone using red clover anymore? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
I was hoping I could just continue to use grass-killing herbicides to control the grasses, and mowing to contain the broadleaf weeds.


We have three plots that were planted last year with crimson, arrowleaf, and red clovers, that I did not have time to spray with gly at the first of July and just I brushed hogged and sprayed them Clet. last week. Maybe the red will stay in them, we will see.


Edited by 8 POINTS OR BETTER (08/19/13 06:33 PM)
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#3328458 - 08/19/13 08:15 PM Re: Anyone using red clover anymore? [Re: smstone22]
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 Originally Posted By: smstone22
I put cinnamon red in every clover plot I do. It is an integral part IMO.



We use that and ladino, both flourish at different times of years and have their own benefits. When also frost seed these two types every year into our pastures and hay fields, so far has provided enough N that we no longer fertilize N. Plus the wildlife love our fields now, makes hunting tougher but thats a side effect I can deal with.
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