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#3329266 - 08/20/13 01:07 PM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: Rebel
My ex-wife was bitten back in 1994 by a cottonmouth. After about 5 hours of agonizing pain, the snake finally died. LOL \:\)

Seriously though, she was bitten and it was in our front yard. She was wearing a dress and nylons. Although the fangs punctured the skin, the nylon stockings acted like a strainer and kept the poison from going into her body. It was pretty miraculous I thought... The Dr kept her under observation for about 3 hours, gave her a script for antibiotics and sent her home... As a side-note, I passed a state trooper on the way to the ER and I was going 115mph. The trooper followed us all the way to the hospital and when I pulled into the hospital, he turned off his lights. He came into the ER a few minutes later, asked a few questions and left. That was one sunday morning I'll never forget. I hate snakes.


many times a defensive bite is "dry". injecting no venom.


Exactly. The nylons couldn't possibly have acted like a "strainer," as the injecting fangs were already through them and in her skin.

My brother is an ER Doc in the desert southwest. He sees rattlesnake bites almost weekly. The vast majority are "dry" bites. The snake just strikes to get you away from it.


Maybe it was a mostly "Dry" bite. BUT, the ER doctor went back and pulled the stockings out of the trash can and there was venom on the stockings in one of the 2 places where the fangs went in. The snake actually struck her twice. The dr was the one who suggested that the venom was trapped on the outside of the stockings. The snake wasn't very big. It was about 2 to 2 and a 1/2 feet in length. Maybe the stockings kept out the venom, maybe not, just stating what the DR said.

Whether or not stockings are good protection against venom, I still ain't gonna wear 'em... Save that one for Ruger at the next vous.
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#3329342 - 08/20/13 02:06 PM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: Rebel]
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Whether or not stockings are good protection against venom, I still ain't gonna wear 'em... Save that one for Ruger at the next vous.


HA!!! Want to see that!

No, wait a minute... I DON'T want to see that!
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#3329390 - 08/20/13 02:42 PM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: Rebel]
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 Originally Posted By: Rebel
My ex-wife was bitten back in 1994 by a cottonmouth. After about 5 hours of agonizing pain, the snake finally died. LOL \:\)


Too funny. Your comment sure made me laugh. \:D \:D \:D

Stik, your Morgan Co. Rattler picture is incredible.
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#3330117 - 08/21/13 07:08 AM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: AndyW
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My brother is an ER Doc in the desert southwest. He sees rattlesnake bites almost weekly. The vast majority are "dry" bites. The snake just strikes to get you away from it.


I asked an ER doctor in Georgia about the snake bites he had seen. He shared with me that at least 90% were alcohol related and ALL were cases of someone trying to either catch or kill the snake.

I realize this is just one ER doctor's view and nothing conclusive, but thought the alcohol statistic was very interesting.


My brother said the VAST majority of bites he sees are on the hand--because the person was trying to catch the snake.


Interesting.We were on our way to church on a Sunday morning. The snake was stretched out across the sidewalk and she stepped on it before she saw it. It struck her twice before she could get away from it.
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#3330195 - 08/21/13 08:04 AM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: Rebel]
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My question is how do you know it is a dry bite, before it bites and maybe kills you. I can't for the life of me understand why any one thinks that something that can and will kill you is so pretty.
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#3330198 - 08/21/13 08:05 AM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: Rebel]
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 Originally Posted By: Rebel
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: AndyW
 Originally Posted By: BSK
My brother is an ER Doc in the desert southwest. He sees rattlesnake bites almost weekly. The vast majority are "dry" bites. The snake just strikes to get you away from it.


I asked an ER doctor in Georgia about the snake bites he had seen. He shared with me that at least 90% were alcohol related and ALL were cases of someone trying to either catch or kill the snake.

I realize this is just one ER doctor's view and nothing conclusive, but thought the alcohol statistic was very interesting.


My brother said the VAST majority of bites he sees are on the hand--because the person was trying to catch the snake.


Interesting.We were on our way to church on a Sunday morning. The snake was stretched out across the sidewalk and she stepped on it before she saw it. It struck her twice before she could get away from it.


When I was struck by a cottonmouth (twice) I just happened to walk next to it while it was curled up sunning itself on an earthen pond dam. I never saw it until it hit me. In fact, it took the second strike before I realized what was happening.
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#3330205 - 08/21/13 08:09 AM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: KPH]
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My question is how do you know it is a dry bite, before it bites and maybe kills you.


You don't. When a snake bite comes into the ER, they just sit the victim down and make them wait to see if the intense pain of venom sets in. That can take up to 6 hours. No severe pain, no venom, and send them home.


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I can't for the life of me understand why any one thinks that something that can and will kill you is so pretty.


Jodi Arias will kill you, but she is sort of pretty. ;\)
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#3330234 - 08/21/13 08:29 AM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: AndyW]
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Very cool pics
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#3330237 - 08/21/13 08:30 AM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK

Jodi Arias will kill you, but she is sort of pretty. ;\)


\:D
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#3330300 - 08/21/13 09:16 AM Re: Timber Rattler [Re: KPH]
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 Originally Posted By: KPH
My question is how do you know it is a dry bite, before it bites and maybe kills you. I can't for the life of me understand why any one thinks that something that can and will kill you is so pretty.


more people are killed by whitetail deer in the U.S. than venomous snakes.

http://www.biggamehunt.net/forum/whitetail-deer-most-dangerous-animal-united-states
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