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#3323609 - 08/15/13 08:16 AM Re: Red or White Clover [Re: 280longshot]
Bayou Buck
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 Originally Posted By: 280longshot
How big of a food plot would say the 28lbs. cover?


Depends on the type of clover and if it will be mixed with anything else. 28lbs od ladino will do almost 6 acres, while 28lbs of crimson may only do 2-3 acres. I'd recommend mixing it with a cerial grain and reducing the rate.

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#3323632 - 08/15/13 08:32 AM Re: Red or White Clover [Re: Bayou Buck]
drrxnupe
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 Originally Posted By: Bayou Buck
 Originally Posted By: 280longshot
How big of a food plot would say the 28lbs. cover?


Depends on the type of clover and if it will be mixed with anything else. 28lbs od ladino will do almost 6 acres, while 28lbs of crimson may only do 2-3 acres. I'd recommend mixing it with a cerial grain and reducing the rate.


I like the cereal grain mixing idea. Would it hurt to add a small amount of forage brassicas as well?

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#3323640 - 08/15/13 08:38 AM Re: Red or White Clover [Re: 280longshot]
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I'd consider mixing some Crimson & Yucchi Arrowleaf in with the Landino. The Crimson will pop in late March or early April and go for 4-6 weeks. When it starts waning, the Arrowleaf will be coming on strong and last until it gets hot (usually July for us). It also gets about knee high and acts as a cover crop for the Landino. Once it turns brown, I mow it about 8" tall, for the Landino underneath. Mowing the Arrowleaf also disperses the seed and we get some new growth each year from it.If you buy Dixie Reseeding Crimson, some times it'll come back as well.

This mix provides clover for about 8-10 months depending on rain & how cold it gets in late winter. We fertilize with 0-20-20 during spring & fall. I get a local seed company to mix this concoction for us each year. Currently have 550 lbs of it and will sow a little of it this fall, with the bulk of it "frost seeded" in Jan-Feb. The mix consists of 100# Landino, 150# Arrowleaf & 300# Dixie Crimson.

Yucchi Arrowleaf this past June


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#3323648 - 08/15/13 08:42 AM Re: Red or White Clover [Re: drrxnupe]
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 Originally Posted By: drrxnupe
 Originally Posted By: Bayou Buck
 Originally Posted By: 280longshot
How big of a food plot would say the 28lbs. cover?


Depends on the type of clover and if it will be mixed with anything else. 28lbs od ladino will do almost 6 acres, while 28lbs of crimson may only do 2-3 acres. I'd recommend mixing it with a cerial grain and reducing the rate.


I like the cereal grain mixing idea. Would it hurt to add a small amount of forage brassicas as well?



Mixing clover & brassica with cereal grain usually does not work well. The larger cereal grain needs to be planted deeper than the small clover & brassica seed. We don't even cover the small seed with dirt. We disk/cultipack/sow cereal seed/cultippack again/sow small seed & pray for rain.
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#3323653 - 08/15/13 08:45 AM Re: Red or White Clover [Re: drrxnupe]
Bayou Buck
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 Originally Posted By: drrxnupe
 Originally Posted By: Bayou Buck
 Originally Posted By: 280longshot
How big of a food plot would say the 28lbs. cover?


Depends on the type of clover and if it will be mixed with anything else. 28lbs od ladino will do almost 6 acres, while 28lbs of crimson may only do 2-3 acres. I'd recommend mixing it with a cerial grain and reducing the rate.


I like the cereal grain mixing idea. Would it hurt to add a small amount of forage brassicas as well?


You can add brassica as well just adjust your seeding rates. Just remember that if you plant brassica every year in the same location you could get pest problems. Last year bugs wiped out all my turnips so I am not planting any this year. Luckily I had sugar beets mixed in and the bugs didnt touch them. This year I am adding radishes.

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#3323665 - 08/15/13 08:54 AM Re: Red or White Clover [Re: Bayou Buck]
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I usually plant my brassicas mid August and then overseed with the clover and cereal grain when the weather is appropriate. Winter wheat and Rye grain can just be broadcasted before a good rain along with the clover. They germinate very easily. I have been doing it for a few years now and have always had a good stand. Just broadcast at a higher seed rate than you would if the ground was freshly tilled.

Another option, depending on how big your plots are, is too plant different sections with different types of forage and rotate each year.

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#3323681 - 08/15/13 09:05 AM Re: Red or White Clover [Re: Bayou Buck]
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Gotcha...I was considering brassica because I wanted a lush attractant for the late fall/winter.
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#3323768 - 08/15/13 10:08 AM Re: Red or White Clover [Re: 280longshot]
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I have always liked the red clovers better. White dutch is the white clover that you see growing in your yard and everywhere else. I never plant it because it grows everywhere else anyways.
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#3323906 - 08/15/13 12:43 PM Re: Red or White Clover [Re: woodsman87]
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Both - my red comes back with the white -
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#3324654 - 08/16/13 07:45 AM Re: Red or White Clover [Re: ferg]
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I usually only plan Durana or Patriot White mixed with oats or wheat. This year we worked up a hayfield with Timothy and Orchardgrass Cinnamon Red. This borders directly a corn and soybean plot of two acres. No joke the Deer have been walking through the corn and beans to graze the red clover. I will be planting red in my fall mix from now on.
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