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#3321657 - 08/13/13 03:47 PM Frustrating
catman529
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Tweaked my sight to get better zeroed in. Was shooting high and right, and made adjustments for that at 20 yd. then I go shoot 3 arrows each at 5, 10 and 15 yards and write down the adjustments... 1/2 inch high at 5, 2.5 inches high at 10, then 2.5 inches high at 15 so I went back to 20 yards and all the shots were at least 2 inches high at 20. There was the occasional shot that I obviously pulled, but I swear I cannot keep it zeroed. However I will not touch the sights or shoot again till tomorrow and see if it was fatigue causing the problem. Maybe I was unconsciously pulling the shots upward and just need to build the muscles back up. Any thoughts?
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#3321671 - 08/13/13 03:55 PM Re: Frustrating [Re: catman529]
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Could be slight changes in your anchor point. Any change in your anchor point will change your POI.
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#3321700 - 08/13/13 04:20 PM Re: Frustrating [Re: UTGrad]
catman529
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I have a peep sight so the anchor is pretty much the same every time
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#3321701 - 08/13/13 04:24 PM Re: Frustrating [Re: UTGrad]
TNDeerGuy
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In addition to possibly not having a consistent anchor, which will cause inconsistent hits and misses, you also could be "heeling" the bow—putting too much pressure on the heel of your hand, versus the pressure being in the "V" of your hand. That can cause the bow to kick up during the shot resulting in high hits. Sloppy form will bite an archer in the rear every time, but then again it could be your sights are just off a tad or your just fatigued and/or frustrated—which that was obvious by your title. ;\) Try it again tomorrow and only shoot a few arrows and then walk away for a bit.
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#3321732 - 08/13/13 04:54 PM Re: Frustrating [Re: TNDeerGuy]
ImThere
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Probably the number 1 mistake people make this time of year is over shooting, shooting fatigued will cause more problems than not shooting imo
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#3322082 - 08/13/13 09:21 PM Re: Frustrating [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
Tweaked my sight to get better zeroed in. Was shooting high and right, and made adjustments for that at 20 yd. then I go shoot 3 arrows each at 5, 10 and 15 yards and write down the adjustments... 1/2 inch high at 5, 2.5 inches high at 10, then 2.5 inches high at 15 so I went back to 20 yards and all the shots were at least 2 inches high at 20. There was the occasional shot that I obviously pulled, but I swear I cannot keep it zeroed. However I will not touch the sights or shoot again till tomorrow and see if it was fatigue causing the problem. Maybe I was unconsciously pulling the shots upward and just need to build the muscles back up. Any thoughts?


Take a break and see how it goes tomorrow. Some days my shooting is terrible. There are so many variables that affect shooting day to day. I've learned to notice trends vs just one day of shooting. I've had days where I'm preoccupied mentally and can't hit the side of a barn. Other days I can't miss.

One other piece of advice is shoot a few groups of arrows before making adjustments to your sight or rest. I used to fiddle with my sight every few shots and it was a mess.

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#3322098 - 08/13/13 09:29 PM Re: Frustrating [Re: TNDeerGuy]
fasteddie
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 Originally Posted By: TNDeerGuy
In addition to possibly not having a consistent anchor, which will cause inconsistent hits and misses, you also could be "heeling" the bow—putting too much pressure on the heel of your hand, versus the pressure being in the "V" of your hand. That can cause the bow to kick up during the shot resulting in high hits. Sloppy form will bite an archer in the rear every time, but then again it could be your sights are just off a tad or your just fatigued and/or frustrated—which that was obvious by your title. ;\) Try it again tomorrow and only shoot a few arrows and then walk away for a bit.


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#3322111 - 08/13/13 09:41 PM Re: Frustrating [Re: fasteddie]
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Yep more often than not...you're moving around a bit.

But this time of year...a number of things could be at fault besides the obvious.

Humidity...reeks havoc on bow string/cables. If you don't believe me...take a perfectly tuned guitar, banjo, fiddle, etc...and go outside and watch what happens. Bow strings are no different.

Lighting...will play more of a role in left/right hits than anything, but don't rule out up/downs either.

A great example of the left/right hits is me at the ASA Classic. We had 20 targets...10 of which were on one side of a roadbed...and 10 on the opposite side of the roadbed. On one side, with the sun positioned behind the targets, I couldn't buy a 12...and actually shot two 8s on that side. When we "turned the corner" and put the sun behind us, I shot 9 twelves in a row out of the 10 on that side. The arrow was just going where my pin was holding...vs the other 10, where I was hitting just barely 1/8 an inch outside of the rings.

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#3322225 - 08/13/13 11:28 PM Re: Frustrating [Re: Crow Terminator]
catman529
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I will try again tomorrow for sure.

One thing I will do to help improve the anchor is put a stop on the cam like my old bow had. I will just take the one off the old bow if I still have it, and put it on the new one so I have a solid back to draw against so I am not fluctuating in draw length.
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#3322229 - 08/13/13 11:33 PM Re: Frustrating [Re: catman529]
catman529
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Darn, just realized I threw away my old cams a while back. Forgot to unscrew that stopper before chucking them.
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