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#3316646 - 08/08/13 09:39 PM Re: Long range help!!! [Re: KPH]
XMAN
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Registered: 08/09/05
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All is welcome to input!!!! So where do I start? Here is all I know so far, drop to 150gr. And put up targets at 100 and just keep backing up. Is that what I need to do? Is there a chart that if you set at 250 it will be on at 500?? Or 2 inch high at 100 is on at 400 ? I'm just asking, because I have no idea. I can hit an imaginary dot at 100 but I never shot 200. Can you guys prop on a knee or tree and do 500 or are you in a gun rest? I just can't freakin hold still at 500. Can you do 500 out of a shooting house? Do I need a bag in there to rest on? Or am I just being paranoid, I can hit a gallon jug at 500 but don't I need to get that in a 3inch circle??? Or is a gallon size target ok?
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#3316735 - 08/08/13 11:18 PM Re: Long range help!!! [Re: XMAN]
Greg M
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Registered: 02/11/10
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Loc: Riverview, FL/ Bluff City, TN

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Ballistics software is a great place to start, but there is no substitute for handloads, a chronograph, a dope chart and a lot of practice. Regardless of bullet, you need one with a very low ballistic coefficient at those ranges. I may speaking out of turn, but there is absolutely no way I could hit a jug at 500 without at least a bipod and stable platform, a knee or tree.....forget it from me. The whole "2 inches high at 300" never made a lick of sense to me, but give me an MOA turret and a dope chart and I'm good to go. I've been working on quick adjustments and a dope for my AR from 100 quick to 565 on an 8" gong. Keep practicing....but not with Kentucky windage. Do it right.
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#3317586 - 08/09/13 07:54 PM Re: Long range help!!! [Re: Greg M]
mr.big
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shoot whatever bullet that groups the best in your rifle,,after that the scope is the most important piece of long range equipment,if this is your first attempt at long range start with a scope that is mil/mil and expect to shoot it enough that you can hit an 8 inch gong ever time at the max range you plan to shoot deer,,

speed and B dont really matter if you know the come ups for the load,,5,000 fps and 2.875BC wont help if you dont have confirmed dope at the range your shooting,,

the load I am shooting now is zeroed at 100,,10 MOA gets me 500 and 29 MOA makes 1000,,but banging steel is different than hunting,,with somebody that I am familiar with is on the spotter I can get on at most any range in a couple shots and then bang it pretty good,,but making first shot cold bore hits on an 8 inch gong past 500 is beyond most weekend shooters pay scale,,

500 is about as far as I feel good about taking a shot on a live animal and I shoot a lot,,it would have to be perfect conditions for me to try it at 800,,

the best thing you could do is set up exactly where you will be hunting and make a dope chart from actual data on the scope by shooting it exactly where the deer would be standing,

dope for 800 right here may be 3-4 moa off from dope for 800 25 miles from here..

shoot a bunch and determine your max range ability,,

something else that will help you is to shoot a 22LR at 100 yards a lot and shoot a right smart at 200 with a 22LR,,it will help a BUNCH
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#3317607 - 08/09/13 08:20 PM Re: Long range help!!! [Re: mr.big]
AWE2LD
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Registered: 08/08/12
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mr.big and I spot for each other.Like what was said above practice,practice,practice.I got busy with life and didn't shoot at range for several months and lost it.When shooting at those ranges it's like shooting a pistol.If you don't use it you will loose it.It's not something you do once or twice a year.I have went from making consintant good hits at 1100 yards to crap hits at 300 yards[don't lift wieghts before shooting].Know your gear,know your gear,practice, practice,spend some money on some GOOD optics,learn them,spend a butt load of money ammo,practice,practice,practice.There is no subsitute for trigger time.The wind separates the men from the boys.
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#3317807 - 08/09/13 11:48 PM Re: Long range help!!! [Re: AWE2LD]
Deer Assassin
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meglomanic i think that is the fellas screen name
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#3317940 - 08/10/13 08:06 AM Re: Long range help!!! [Re: Deer Assassin]
KPH
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Registered: 08/06/05
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Loc: Hendersonville Tenn

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All the advise here has been good just don't be scared to try it. I try to P- dog shooting every year, I remember the first time I thought I could never hit a six inch target at 500 pulse yards but when I started shooting every thing came together.
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#3317968 - 08/10/13 08:37 AM Re: Long range help!!! [Re: Deer Assassin]
Huntr2
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Registered: 12/24/09
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Loc: West Tenn

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A .270 shooting 130 grain Hornady SST superformance is a good choice check out all the numbers. A flat shooter is always the way to go in my opinion.
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#3317999 - 08/10/13 09:25 AM Re: Long range help!!! [Re: Deer Assassin]
mr.big
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 Originally Posted By: Deer Assassin
meglomanic i think that is the fellas screen name


he is very informative about long range,,and will tell you the most important thing is to know when not to shoot,,
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#3318591 - 08/10/13 08:29 PM Re: Long range help!!! [Re: Eric Kilby]
vonb
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Registered: 12/01/05
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This can't be said enough. Know your gun and your DOPE.

 Originally Posted By: Eric Kilby
Practice practice practice at the ranges you want to shoot

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#3318606 - 08/10/13 08:34 PM Re: Long range help!!! [Re: vonb]
Huntr2
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Registered: 12/24/09
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The .270 in 130 grain seems to be very accurate, but yes practice like you hunt.
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