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#3314263 - 08/06/13 11:17 PM Need buying advice for new camera
Chuck Norris
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Looking to spend around $100 or less. I currently have a Primos TruthCam 35 and have had pretty good luck with it. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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#3314349 - 08/07/13 05:49 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: Chuck Norris]
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Chuck Norris doesn't need a trail cam...the deer report to him.
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#3314362 - 08/07/13 06:14 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: MUP]
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I have just rec'd my first Primos Ultra Truth Cam 35 back from repair...a new replacement that is. It melted the batteries into the case after two outings. Someone will be along soon that knows about ratings of the different brands. ;\)
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#3316580 - 08/08/13 09:00 PM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: MUP]
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Stay away from anything Wildgame Innovations.
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#3316595 - 08/08/13 09:14 PM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: Wompuscat]
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My personal opinion for best cams $100 or less is Moultrie. I have several that were under $125 and I've been using them for years with no problems. Others may and will disagree but mine are still going strong. Currently have 6 out and 4 out of 6 are over 3 years old. 2 are bout 5 years old.
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#3316641 - 08/08/13 09:36 PM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: MUP]
rem270
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
Chuck Norris doesn't need a trail cam...the deer report to him.


Thats a good one MUP \:D


I have 5 Wildgames Innovations and dont have a complaint with any of them. My buddy runs Moultrie D-55's and there good also.
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#3316871 - 08/09/13 07:13 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: Wompuscat]
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 Originally Posted By: wompuscat
Stay away from anything Wildgame Innovations.

I'm just going to emphasize this statement.
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#3316883 - 08/09/13 07:21 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: Wompuscat]
CountryBoy053
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 Originally Posted By: wompuscat
Stay away from anything Wildgame Innovations.


I love my wildgame innovations. I bought it almost 2 months ago. And put it uo 2 weeks later since then I've gotten well over 1000 pics. With maybe 10 total white out pics. And hasn't used any battery.
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#3316986 - 08/09/13 08:47 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: CountryBoy053]
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I have two Wildgame Innovations cameras. One is the IR D6 and the other is the MINI IR. They both stopped taking pictures. Contacted WGI and was told by their customer service staff that the only two SD cards that they approve for use in their cameras are Sandisk and Lexar. All other types will lock the Wild Game Innovations cameras.

To make a very long story a lot shorter. WGI refused to honor their 1 year warranty on the cameras. You have to register your camera with them when purchased to qualify for the warranty and the start of the active warranty period is the date of actual manufacture not the date of purchase. I will never purchase anything made by Wildgame Innovations again.
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#3316993 - 08/09/13 08:54 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: CountryBoy053]
infoman jr.
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 Originally Posted By: CountryBoy053
 Originally Posted By: wompuscat
Stay away from anything Wildgame Innovations.


I love my wildgame innovations. I bought it almost 2 months ago. And put it uo 2 weeks later since then I've gotten well over 1000 pics. With maybe 10 total white out pics. And hasn't used any battery.

Please update your camera status in 20,000 more pictures.
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#3317024 - 08/09/13 09:13 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: infoman jr.]
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I have 4 Truth Cam 35's and they are great. I have bought all mine for no more tham $80.00. Check online(Upland Gifts). They have great battery life and work well over a mineral or bait site. They are not the best over food plots and work best in well lit areas. I also have a couple $200.00 Moultries and I have the most problems out of them. I think you should expect to have trail cam issues at some point. I have had great interactions with Primos and not so much with Moultrie. Just my oppinion.
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#3317076 - 08/09/13 09:52 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: Kirk]
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 Originally Posted By: Kirk
WGI refused to honor their 1 year warranty on the cameras. You have to register your camera with them when purchased to qualify for the warranty and the start of the active warranty period is the date of actual manufacture not the date of purchase. I will never purchase anything made by Wildgame Innovations again.

Kirk, I had a somewhat similar warranty experience with Bushnell. Don't think the warranty began before the date of purchase, but I had purchased this particular Bushnell at Bass Pro in Nashville, paying cash, not keeping up with the receipt, and not taking the time to register the cam. Even though it was pretty obvious the cam had been a recent purchase (based on the model # of the cam), Bushnell wouldn't cover it under warranty. While I can understand Bushnell's policy, the experience certainly soured me on Bushnell's, more because of the high failure rate of that particular Bushnell cam, as Bushnell should have simply been replacing all of them, no questions asked.

Regarding honoring warranties, I had a fairly good experience with Uway, at least all I had to do was pay the postage to send back the failed units, which they would replace with a new unit within a couple weeks. But when every replacement also failed, I finally just got tired of wasting my time getting them replaced. My conclusion is if we purchase any brand made in China, good chance it's going to stop working soon after purchase, or about the time the warranty ends, although some can be lucky in having a particular Chinese cam work for years.

My advice on buying a trail cam is not to just focus on the initial cost, but also focus on how much you value your personal time, how much you value reliability, and how much you value longevity (lasting value) of the cam purchased.

Among the lower cost cams, I've heard "less bad" about the Covert brand (which is not as widely marketed by the big places such as Bass Pro & Cabela's). A friend recently talked me into at least trying one of the Covert's. At least it wasn't a DOA like so many others I've attempted to try. It appeared to be working, but my experience with it is limited to simply verifying it worked out of the box, and placing it over a salt lick a couple weeks ago. I'll check it soon, just don't like to visit the sites very often. If you consider the Covert brand, one appeal, at least to me, is it's a Kentucky company (even though the cams are made in China). I purchased mine online from Wing Supply in KY.

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#3317109 - 08/09/13 10:41 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: infoman jr.]
CountryBoy053
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 Originally Posted By: infoman jr.
 Originally Posted By: CountryBoy053
 Originally Posted By: wompuscat
Stay away from anything Wildgame Innovations.


I love my wildgame innovations. I bought it almost 2 months ago. And put it uo 2 weeks later since then I've gotten well over 1000 pics. With maybe 10 total white out pics. And hasn't used any battery.

Please update your camera status in 20,000 more pictures.


Just for you. Will do. Honestly I'd be happy with getting 5-10 thousand pics off it. I paid 40 dollars for brand new in package with 8gb card and batteries
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#3317750 - 08/09/13 10:21 PM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: CountryBoy053]
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Check out the new Browning Range Ops. Go to trailcampro.com and read the review. I don't have one, but thinking real hard about getting one. I think they are $119 or $129 and if you buy it from them they give you a free 2 year extended warranty.
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#3318331 - 08/10/13 04:12 PM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: darn2ten]
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For the price, I am pretty happy with my Moultrie M-100. I have taken probably 10,000+ pics with it over the last 3 years. Some of the night motion pictures could be more clear, but when I don't set it to take multiple pictures at a time they are generally pretty good.

Personally, I would much rather have 3 mid-range cams for the price of one upper echelon camera. I love to cover as much ground as I can with cameras so I would sacrifice a little quality for quantity of coverage.

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#3318809 - 08/11/13 01:14 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: infoman jr.]
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 Originally Posted By: infoman jr.
 Originally Posted By: wompuscat
Stay away from anything Wildgame Innovations.

I'm just going to emphasize this statement.





X2!!!!!!

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#3318934 - 08/11/13 08:41 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: darn2ten]
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 Originally Posted By: darn2ten
Check out the new Browning Range Ops.

I agree, the initial feedback makes this one look promising.
But I now have an aversion to ANY new brand entries. They may need a couple years to work out quality control issues. A replacement warranty can be nice on one hand, total pain on the other, as you're missing the use of the cam, even more when the replacement(s) also fail or soon quit working.

Initially, Bushnell SOUNDED good, and then LEUPOLD "sounded" even better. Now Browning enters the pictures, and they also sound good. The list goes on for many other lesser known names, with quality control commonly being a bigger problem with newer "brands", which Browning is, regarding the trail cam business. I like Browning guns, and love Leupold scopes, but may be a while before I take another look at either of their trail cams.

And I have no faith in TraiCamPro's reviews.
With a grain of salt, the http://www.chasingame.com reviews can be worth a look.
IMO, better reviews come from a large number of user's "feedback", such as from those who have used a particular cam for over a year, which are not initially available.

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#3318935 - 08/11/13 08:43 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: infoman jr.]
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#3318971 - 08/11/13 09:13 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: redblood]
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TrailCamPro sales cameras. Surely everyone is smart enough to know their reviews are crap. Only put faith in rivews from folks who don't sell cameras like Chasingame.com. Wes is correct about all this.
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#3318982 - 08/11/13 09:22 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: FIREMANJIM]
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You can't beat a dlc covert black 60 and its only $139 otd from custom1enterprise
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#3318992 - 08/11/13 09:29 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: FIREMANJIM]
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Thanks, Jim. \:\)

Tell you something else I believe I'm correct about:

For the best quality pics and best lasting value for the money,
best bet is a "home-brew".

"Home-brews" are not going to be "cheap", but they're also not as expensive as a Reconyx. They do produce the absolute best quality images, and quality control is great, as they use REAL cameras within them (such as Sony) and their triggering mechanisms are very tried & proven (such as the SnapShotSniper triggers).

"Home-brews" are either made by yourself, or purchased from someone who would custom make them for you. They are the original trail cams which spawned the trail cam industry. As regular cameras (such as Sony) have improved quality and lowered prices, the rise in quality of "home-brews" has increased with them, along with lower prices.

I still have 10-yr-old homebrews that work, and have faster trigger speeds than most of the "commercially" made cams. Mine use Sony cameras. NONE of my commercial cams other than Reconyx have been as reliable.

The only issues with homebrews are higher initial cost than the "cheap" commercial cams, and the ability to make them using true invisible "black" flash. That said, I'd prefer a white flash homebrew over a red-flash so called infrared anything.

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#3318996 - 08/11/13 09:34 AM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: W.Seay]
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 Originally Posted By: W.Seay
You can't beat a dlc covert black 60 and its only $139 otd from custom1enterprise

Among the lower priced black-flash units, this one is getting quite a following. That is "the one" I'm currently testing, while I wouldn't give a nickel for most "name brand" commercial cams. By contrast, the daytime pics on this Covert Black 60 compete with a homebrew.

Not sure how "true" the black flash is or is not, but it's certainly not a "red" flash, and certainly a fraction the cost of a $550 Reconyx (which takes less quality pics).

I'll also put in a plug for Fireman Jim, as he's one of the people that custom makes "home-brews" and sells them to other users. You can make them yourself, but if you've never done it and just want to try one, much easier to just buy one already made by someone who know what they're doing.
http://www.jtswildlifecameras.com/

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#3319152 - 08/11/13 01:10 PM Re: Need buying advice for new camera [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
tasco- tough, simple, cheap


I hope so...I have one of those 50 buck gems out right now. Takes nice clear pics during testing, just hope it lasts for a while .
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