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#3310854 - 08/03/13 05:17 PM I need a new archery guy
Master Chief
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I can see my HIDDEN inserts. Anyone in the archery business should know what a H.I.T insert is and how to apply them. Can they be taken out?


These are Easton ST Axis FMJ N-Fused arrows.. just the cheapos
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#3311116 - 08/03/13 09:46 PM Re: I need a new archery guy [Re: Master Chief]
UTGrad
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Edited by UTGrad (08/03/13 09:47 PM)

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#3311127 - 08/03/13 10:14 PM Re: I need a new archery guy [Re: UTGrad]
Master Chief
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Anyone ever try to remove a HIT insert with Easton epoxy? From what I read on the net you can't.
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#3311136 - 08/03/13 10:27 PM Re: I need a new archery guy [Re: Master Chief]
deerhunter10
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call matt eddie energy wave bowstrings. he should know or tndeerguy should know.

Edited by deerhunter10 (08/03/13 10:28 PM)
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#3311175 - 08/04/13 12:15 AM Re: I need a new archery guy [Re: deerhunter10]
TNDeerGuy
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They can be taken out, but it can be a pain and sometimes it is inevitable that you may damage the shaft beyond repair. If a shop did this, I would take it back to them before you run the risk of damaging a $10 arrow.

However, here are things that I know you can try, listed in order of not damaging the shaft.

1. Take nock out and put a drill bit in the shaft and "swing" the shaft letting the drill bit punch the insert out. Be careful though because sometimes when the insert comes out, the drill bit will be flying out with it.

2. Heat a pot of water to just about boiling and place the point end of shaft, with field point screwed in, in the water for about 10-15 minutes. Take shaft out and with a pair of pliers start working the point/insert outóit may take several times.

These next ones are a complete gamble and run a very high risk of damaging the shaft.

3. Take a drill bit and drill out the insert inside the shaftóbe very careful not to contact the shaft.

4. This will almost always get the insert out, but at least 50% of the time will damage the shaft! Screw field point into the insert and with a propane torch heat the end of the point slowly for 10-15 seconds, the heat will transfer down to the aluminum insert and will heat/loosen the epoxy. After 10-15 seconds, take pliers to the point and try to work insert outórepeat process until the insert breaks free. **Caution** Carbon does not like a lot of heat, really doesn't like any, so even if you get the insert out carefully inspect the end of the shaft for small hairline cracks.

There maybe other ideas out there, but these have worked for me over the years.
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#3311180 - 08/04/13 12:34 AM Re: I need a new archery guy [Re: TNDeerGuy]
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 Originally Posted By: TNDeerGuy
They can be taken out, but it can be a pain and sometimes it is inevitable that you may damage the shaft beyond repair. If a shop did this, I would take it back to them before you run the risk of damaging a $10 arrow.

However, here are things that I know you can try, listed in order of not damaging the shaft.

1. Take nock out and put a drill bit in the shaft and "swing" the shaft letting the drill bit punch the insert out. Be careful though because sometimes when the insert comes out, the drill bit will be flying out with it.

2. Heat a pot of water to just about boiling and place the point end of shaft, with field point screwed in, in the water for about 10-15 minutes. Take shaft out and with a pair of pliers start working the point/insert outóit may take several times.

These next ones are a complete gamble and run a very high risk of damaging the shaft.

3. Take a drill bit and drill out the insert inside the shaftóbe very careful not to contact the shaft.

4. This will almost always get the insert out, but at least 50% of the time will damage the shaft! Screw field point into the insert and with a propane torch heat the end of the point slowly for 10-15 seconds, the heat will transfer down to the aluminum insert and will heat/loosen the epoxy. After 10-15 seconds, take pliers to the point and try to work insert outórepeat process until the insert breaks free. **Caution** Carbon does not like a lot of heat, really doesn't like any, so even if you get the insert out carefully inspect the end of the shaft for small hairline cracks.

There maybe other ideas out there, but these have worked for me over the years.


I will take them back and see what they can do. They dont carry the axis arrows but he will be ordering a set if he even slightly damages them
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#3311181 - 08/04/13 12:35 AM Re: I need a new archery guy [Re: Master Chief]
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Happy bday btw and thanks for the help
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#3311281 - 08/04/13 08:34 AM Re: I need a new archery guy [Re: Master Chief]
ImThere
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 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
 Originally Posted By: TNDeerGuy
They can be taken out, but it can be a pain and sometimes it is inevitable that you may damage the shaft beyond repair. If a shop did this, I would take it back to them before you run the risk of damaging a $10 arrow.

However, here are things that I know you can try, listed in order of not damaging the shaft.

1. Take nock out and put a drill bit in the shaft and "swing" the shaft letting the drill bit punch the insert out. Be careful though because sometimes when the insert comes out, the drill bit will be flying out with it.

2. Heat a pot of water to just about boiling and place the point end of shaft, with field point screwed in, in the water for about 10-15 minutes. Take shaft out and with a pair of pliers start working the point/insert outóit may take several times.

These next ones are a complete gamble and run a very high risk of damaging the shaft.

3. Take a drill bit and drill out the insert inside the shaftóbe very careful not to contact the shaft.

4. This will almost always get the insert out, but at least 50% of the time will damage the shaft! Screw field point into the insert and with a propane torch heat the end of the point slowly for 10-15 seconds, the heat will transfer down to the aluminum insert and will heat/loosen the epoxy. After 10-15 seconds, take pliers to the point and try to work insert outórepeat process until the insert breaks free. **Caution** Carbon does not like a lot of heat, really doesn't like any, so even if you get the insert out carefully inspect the end of the shaft for small hairline cracks.

There maybe other ideas out there, but these have worked for me over the years.


I will take them back and see what they can do. They dont carry the axis arrows but he will be ordering a set if he even slightly damages them

He already damaged them imo. He needs to make it right
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#3311296 - 08/04/13 08:51 AM Re: I need a new archery guy [Re: ImThere]
hoyt30
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I shoot the axis st with h i t. If the arrows were mine they would be replacing them. Be very careful with that carbon. I was changing broadheads the other day and heard a small pop, that shaft went to the trash. Carbon is very dangerous when broke.
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#3311395 - 08/04/13 10:46 AM Re: I need a new archery guy [Re: hoyt30]
fasteddie
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wow. wow. yeah id be taking it back and asking for another dozen
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