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#3308313 - 07/31/13 09:43 PM Re: Looks Like Canned Spann [Re: Master Chief]
Nealmeally
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 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
I don't really agree with saying he was hunting, but he should not have been in the situation anyways.


If you are calling Turkeys for someone you are hunting. Dressed in camo and assisting others. He must have been hunting or it wouldn't have come to more charges.
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#3308325 - 07/31/13 09:53 PM Re: Looks Like Canned Spann [Re: Nealmeally]
CAW
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Wow, I agree that he should have never been in that situation to begin with, but I did not realize that calling turkeys for someone else meant that you were actually hunting.

What if he was by himself in the woods without a weapon and called to some turkeys, would that be considered hunting? Or, is the fact that he was with someone who was hunting make him a hunter?

Again, I don't think he should have ever been in the situation to begin with. From what I read, it was not a "simple mistake" that got him in trouble to begin with. But I still have trouble with him being designated a "hunter" simply because he was calling for someone else. I'd like to see that rule/law if someone has it.

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#3308335 - 07/31/13 10:03 PM Re: Looks Like Canned Spann [Re: Master Chief]
Southern Sportsman
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 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
I don't really agree with saying he was hunting, but he should not have been in the situation anyways.


I agree with this. I don't know the details of his first legal issue so I won't comment on it, but I think hammering him for calling turkeys for others is a bit ridiculous when it is undisputed that he didn't have a gun or kill a bird. I know that it violated the letter of the law, but IMHO, the TCA definition of "hunting" is way too broad. ("'Hunting' means chasing, driving, flushing, attracting, pursuing, worrying, following after or on the trail of, searching for, trapping, shooting at, stalking, or lying in wait for, any wildlife, whether or not such wildlife is then or subsequently captured, killed, taken, or wounded and every act of assistance to any other person").

He would have technically been in violation of his parole if he had stood on his back porch naked at sunset, while drinking a beer, and owl hooted to locate a turkey if he relayed to that information to his buddy who hunted the next morning. He would have been in violation if he threw rocks a squirrels raiding his bird feeder. I personally believe that, for the sake of time, resources, and judicial economy, maybe we should give a guy a pass when he is simply trying to call a turkey for a buddy, even if he did screw up tagging a KS deer a year before.


Edited by Southern Sportsman (07/31/13 10:37 PM)

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#3308338 - 07/31/13 10:06 PM Re: Looks Like Canned Spann [Re: CAW]
Southern Sportsman
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 Originally Posted By: CAW


What if he was by himself in the woods without a weapon and called to some turkeys, would that be considered hunting? Or, is the fact that he was with someone who was hunting make him a hunter?


"'hunting' does not include stalking, attracting, searching for, or lying in wait for, wildlife by an unarmed person solely for the purpose of watching wildlife or taking pictures of wildlife"

TCA section 70-1-101(19)


Edited by Southern Sportsman (07/31/13 10:08 PM)

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#3308342 - 07/31/13 10:09 PM Re: Looks Like Canned Spann [Re: Southern Sportsman]
Nealmeally
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Getting deep here, I just know that if you are calling turkeys for someone that is going to shoot you are required to have a hunting license. In my opinion that IS hunting. Cause you are playing a part in getting the animal closer for a kill. You are aiding in taking the animal.
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#3308356 - 07/31/13 10:19 PM Re: Looks Like Canned Spann [Re: Nealmeally]
DeerKiller2012
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CYA Spooker,
Them homeboys gonna show you what huntin whitetail is all about for 30 days.
I bet that arrogant attitude becomes humbled sooner than later ! Lol what an idiot . Obviously has tooooo much money . Glad they finally cranked down on some of the fakers . Anyone can kill , but ill take an 100" or less earned kill any day !

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#3308384 - 07/31/13 10:52 PM Re: Looks Like Canned Spann [Re: Nealmeally]
CAW
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 Originally Posted By: Nealmeally
Getting deep here, I just know that if you are calling turkeys for someone that is going to shoot you are required to have a hunting license. In my opinion that IS hunting. Cause you are playing a part in getting the animal closer for a kill. You are aiding in taking the animal.


I did not know that if you were calling for another hunter that you were required to have a hunting license.

Again, not picking sides, just trying to clarify the law.

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#3308385 - 07/31/13 10:52 PM Re: Looks Like Canned Spann [Re: DeerKiller2012]
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Getting caught baiting turkey probably didn't help his cause much.
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#3308389 - 07/31/13 10:59 PM Re: Looks Like Canned Spann [Re: CAW]
Nealmeally
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 Originally Posted By: CAW
 Originally Posted By: Nealmeally
Getting deep here, I just know that if you are calling turkeys for someone that is going to shoot you are required to have a hunting license. In my opinion that IS hunting. Cause you are playing a part in getting the animal closer for a kill. You are aiding in taking the animal.


I did not know that if you were calling for another hunter that you were required to have a hunting license.

Again, not picking sides, just trying to clarify the law.


Pretty sure I'm right on that. You are calling him in for a kill.
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#3308395 - 07/31/13 11:12 PM Re: Looks Like Canned Spann [Re: CAW]
Southern Sportsman
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 Originally Posted By: CAW


I did not know that if you were calling for another hunter that you were required to have a hunting license.

Again, not picking sides, just trying to clarify the law.


I dont think you do. Not 100% but ive always though a non-licensed caller was allowed. I'll check on this. Now im curious

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