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#3301216 - 07/24/13 08:34 PM Reply to race monger "writer"
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Ok if you need to catch up read this.
http://www.tndeer.com/tndeertalk/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3300630&page=1#Post3300630

I received a reply today from the editor of the free racist press editor.
Actually the reply was from:

Alison Gerber
Managing Editor
Chattanooga Times Free Press
400 East 11th Street
Chattanooga, TN 37403

P: 423.757.6408
F: 423.668.5055

This is what she had to say:

Mr. Mires,

Thanks for writing to share your thought about about David Cook’s column.
I understand that many people will not agree with Mr. Cook. He is a columnist who writes his opinion and as such, the newspaper does not censor him or tell him what to write or think. By design, his columns are meant to provoke discussion and debate and, yes, sometimes they do provoke outrage.
We have many readers who love him and some who love to hate him. We have many who agree with one column he writes and disagree with the next. That’s to be expected for a columnist.
Again, thanks for writing.

Ok before I share my thoughts I will share my reply to her:

Thank you for your time that you took to reply.
We, myself and the 10,000 + members of http://www.tndeer.com will be taking this up with your advertisers and sponsors.
I understand he writes for effect, well 'mam, he got it this time.

The difference in us (paying LEGAL sportsmen of the state of TN) and the rest of the soap opera watchers, we hear the stuff wrote for effect but we take to heart and act on it, not just sit and complain about it.

Thank you again for your time and I wish you the best of luck,,,, you're going to need it.
D.


So from what I gather she said, yeah we let him say whatever he wants and we support him 100% just so we will get better sales ratings or whatever.
People like her and the owners of this rag live by ratings and subscriptions.
The ONLY way, in my opinion, to make an impact with them is through their pocketbook.
That means lots of emails to every single advertiser they have.
That is the ONLY way we will make any difference at all.
So I ask you, are you gonna watch Jerry Springer or are you going to stand up for what is right and do something about it?

Are you going to let tndeer, and myself, just be a blowhard that is all bark and no bite or are you going to remind them that tndeer once was a VERY strong presence in the outdoor world?

The choice is yours. I know what I am going to do and I will provide all the information you need to follow suit.
Agree, disagree, do whatever you wish but for God's sake DO SOMETHING.

Someone posted not long ago about the line that will be drawn.
I have drawn mine and this is where it starts.
We pay what we are required to do and I be dammed if I allow some blowhard to put down the officers that are working for us to uphold the laws that WE pay our dues to be in compliance with.

What are you going to do?
The choice is yours.

Might not seem like a big deal but to me, it is.
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#3301221 - 07/24/13 08:38 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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I'm waiting on my reply. I didn't send it until late. I've also linked the article on 3 other forum boards I visit.
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#3301222 - 07/24/13 08:38 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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Infiniti Chattanooga
7648 Lee Highway, Chattanooga, TN 37421

This is an advertiser on their site.
Are you going to buy a car from them?
Are you going to let them know why you aren't?
I am not to number one and I dang sure am to number two.
What about you ?
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#3301227 - 07/24/13 08:42 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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http://heart.memorial.org/

A place of healing advertising there?
Wonder how they would feel about paying their money to a business that pushes race issues and lies in hopes of ratings?

I don't think they would like it?
Wonder if he wrote an article how they refused to treat someone because they were white? Black? Hispanic?

Wonder who he will attack next?
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#3301228 - 07/24/13 08:43 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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How bout calling them? I'll call tomorrow if we can set it up where she can get several calls... Like a call an hour or more. We should be able to get guys to commit to calling from here.
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#3301230 - 07/24/13 08:45 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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http://chattanoogasolarpower.com/

Hmmm, a business that makes their money with green power.
Wonder what they will do when cookie attacks the color green instead of white?

I don't think I would like the odds if I were them.

Think I will ask them.
I think I will also let them know anything they are associated with I will avoid like the plague.
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#3301235 - 07/24/13 08:51 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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Well lookie here

http://www.taylorgm.com

Taylor automotive from right here in Martin, TN.
My hometown.

Wonder how Tom Taylor and his son Mike will feel about 10,000 people that will not trade there and furthermore will tell everyone they know not to trade there.
Funny Tom also owns Union City Ford as well.
Wonder how many hunters and fishermen in the state of TN we can reach to buy their new cars and TRUCKS somewhere besides his two businesses?

Funny how far it reaches huh?
I got their number in my cell phone too, won't take long to call them up.

Wonder if they like spending money where it has a less than good chance at returning a profit?
Wonder if they would rather do the right thing and attract business instead of losing it?
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#3301238 - 07/24/13 08:53 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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http://markhite.com/index.php?set=for_sellers

Mark Hite, I don't know him but I bet he don't like wasting money.
Would you rather reach the people that agree with racism or would you rather reach good hard working people that might need a house?
I am gonna ask him, what you gonna do ?
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#3301240 - 07/24/13 08:56 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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http://www.la-z-boy.com/Alabama-Tennessee/

Lane is looking alot better to me than lazyboy.
At least that is what I am going to tell them.
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#3301248 - 07/24/13 09:06 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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http://www.showclix.com/event/3769696

Wonder how the duck dynasty people would feel about supporting an anti hunting anti fishing website business?

Guess I will ask them too.
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#3301258 - 07/24/13 09:11 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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#3301284 - 07/24/13 09:22 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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What I am about to write needs to be read with an open mind. Just some very friendly advice. It is very hard to get anyone to agree with you when you wrap your opinion around a baseball bat and beat them with it. Tact and professionalism is needed for the short term.

When contacting advertisers the best approach is to inform them what has occurred and why we feel it is wrong. Ask them to voice their opinion on the subject to the editors. The last thing advertisers want is negative opinions about their business due to an association with a columnist in a news paper. .

Give them the chance to react prior to threatening them with boycotts. If they side with the paper then blitz them with boycott threats.
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#3301286 - 07/24/13 09:24 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: Kirk]
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Very good point Kirk, thank you.
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#3301354 - 07/24/13 10:38 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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Thanks Ruger. Next bit of free time I have, i'll be sending emails to all their sponsors. That "article" was a disgrace and absolutely ridiculous.
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#3301356 - 07/24/13 10:51 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: DirtyBear0311]
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I have lived my entire live with the above thoughts/comments, yet I am still considered an azz wipe, jump on the train and enjoy the ride, maybe in a few years each of you will get the pat on the back that you need and deserve, it only took me about 30 years to get the first thank you that I was not asking for.

I am on your team Ruger and all others included, full steam ahead
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#3301446 - 07/25/13 06:17 AM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: Chaneylake]
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I miss the OLD days... Those days where ignorance and stupidity in regards to informing a nation would likely result in a surprise punishment rendering those with diarrhea of the mouth leary of crapping anywhere anytime \:\(

I say again as I have many times here before, the Old Right is now Wrong, the Old Wrong is the new Right.............. and it sickens me to no end.

Thanks for taking this on Ruger and I will do my part to contact all those found to be associated with this diarrhea information center
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#3301539 - 07/25/13 07:57 AM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: Kimber45]
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Yea! Let the war(so to speak) begin!!!! Thanks Ruger for all the list.
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#3301826 - 07/25/13 12:26 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: rabbit hunter]
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#3301841 - 07/25/13 12:35 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: Deer Assassin]
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I still have not got a reply from anyone?
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#3301844 - 07/25/13 12:39 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: SilverFox]
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Keep bombarding them ..make them spend all day dealing with the emails and phone calls
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#3301871 - 07/25/13 01:26 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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I just finished a conversation with a lady at Green Form Construction and Solar. She understood my concerns and took my name and number and said she would forward it to the owners.
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#3301960 - 07/25/13 03:00 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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You go Ruger!!! I'm going to get the
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#3302092 - 07/25/13 04:55 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: rsimms]
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Thank you rsimms for bringing this to our attention. \:D
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#3302103 - 07/25/13 05:08 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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Son as I have a minute I will be sending some emails. Thanks for doing the foot work RUGER.
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#3302288 - 07/25/13 08:39 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: in the dog house!]
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 Originally Posted By: in the dog house!
Son as I have a minute I will be sending some emails. Thanks for doing the foot work RUGER.
X2 Thanks!!
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#3303113 - 07/26/13 03:44 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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Mr. Cook posted this on my Facebook page: "As it stands now, Sunday's column will be a continuation of last week's column, which started all of this. Hope you read it."

I assume it will be at this link at some point: http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/opinion/columns/
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#3303144 - 07/26/13 04:09 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: rsimms]
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Let me guess, "I went extremely overboard in my column, and gauging the public reaction to it, it appears that I need to write a Part II. But this one will be a complete 180° turn from my previous stance, thereby insulating me from criticism and having us all sing Kumbaya together in a drum circle."



PS...white people are still the Debbul
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#3303170 - 07/26/13 04:35 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: TAFKAP]
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 Originally Posted By: TAFKAP
Let me guess, "I went extremely overboard in my column, and gauging the public reaction to it, it appears that I need to write a Part II. But this one will be a complete 180° turn from my previous stance, thereby insulating me from criticism and having us all sing Kumbaya together in a drum circle."


Honestly, if he is the True Liberal I believe he is, instead of a mea culpa, he will double down with his next column.
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#3303371 - 07/26/13 08:53 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: BSK]
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Yep BSK is right, he will REALLY write something STUPID this time for more reaction.

Did my part so far and if he does do that for more reaction I will touch base with all the advertisers and let them know I WILL pay double price before I trade with any of them for supporting such a turd smeared rag.
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#3303400 - 07/26/13 09:18 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: TAFKAP
Let me guess, "I went extremely overboard in my column, and gauging the public reaction to it, it appears that I need to write a Part II. But this one will be a complete 180° turn from my previous stance, thereby insulating me from criticism and having us all sing Kumbaya together in a drum circle."


Honestly, if he is the True Liberal I believe he is, instead of a mea culpa, he will double down with his next column.


Quite possible, but I anticipate a very watered-down disingenuously conciliatory mea culpa followed by a sanctimonious plea that "reasonable people" have a "conversation about race/immigration," and then taking credit for his original column's having brought attention to the matter.
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#3303629 - 07/27/13 08:14 AM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: Bambi Buster]
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 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
...a sanctimonious plea that "reasonable people" have a "conversation about race/immigration," and then taking credit for his original column's having brought attention to the matter.


THAT part I guarantee will be in there. I just love how literary "bomb throwers" always excuse their pot-stirring by claiming they were just "bring attention to the matter" or were "opening a dialogue." Right...
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#3303872 - 07/27/13 02:24 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
...a sanctimonious plea that "reasonable people" have a "conversation about race/immigration," and then taking credit for his original column's having brought attention to the matter.


THAT part I guarantee will be in there. I just love how literary "bomb throwers" always excuse their pot-stirring by claiming they were just "bring attention to the matter" or were "opening a dialogue." Right...


...and of course the "dialogue" rapidly becomes a monologue with the tossing of the racist/bigot card at anyone who disagrees with the bomb thrower's premise.
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#3303885 - 07/27/13 02:50 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: Bambi Buster]
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#3304399 - 07/28/13 06:47 AM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: rsimms]
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 Originally Posted By: rsimms
Mr. Cook posted this on my Facebook page: "As it stands now, Sunday's column will be a continuation of last week's column, which started all of this. Hope you read it."

I assume it will be at this link at some point: http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/opinion/columns/

Here is his follow up
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jul/28/cook-column-fishing-and-talking/?opinioncolumns

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#3304407 - 07/28/13 07:04 AM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: bigluresonly]
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I would like to see a public apology to the TWRA and who ever else he might have offended.
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#3304409 - 07/28/13 07:06 AM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: bigluresonly]
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I will give him credit for manning up and admitting he was wrong but the way yall bombarded him with meaningfull replies is what did it . I also think RSims got to him as I beleive he new his dad well . He still is a little twerp , this SURE is not the first stupid article he has ever written .

Good job everybody !!!

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#3304419 - 07/28/13 07:20 AM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: BUCK-J]
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My favorite part is how he quotes all the idiotic replies to him, none of the well written calm ones.

You are right buck J, he is still a little twerp.

More than I expected though.
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#3304605 - 07/28/13 11:06 AM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: TAFKAP]
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 Originally Posted By: TAFKAP
Let me guess, "I went extremely overboard in my column, and gauging the public reaction to it, it appears that I need to write a Part II. But this one will be a complete 180° turn from my previous stance, thereby insulating me from criticism and having us all sing Kumbaya together in a drum circle."



PS...white people are still the Debbul


Based on the follow-up. I'd say you hit the nail on the head. I'd say heck of a guess. \:D
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#3304628 - 07/28/13 11:55 AM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: BigD_625]
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I have a lot of respect for a man who has the guts to say, publically, "I was wrong." I hope the folks who were outraged by David Cook's July 21st column will be as equally appreciative of his change-of-heart, inspired no doubt, by many people who helped him see the error of his words, at least in that particular case.
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jul/28/cook-column-fishing-and-talking/?opinioncolumns
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#3304701 - 07/28/13 02:02 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: rsimms]
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 Originally Posted By: rsimms
I have a lot of respect for a man who has the guts to say, publically, "I was wrong." I hope the folks who were outraged by David Cook's July 21st column will be as equally appreciative of his change-of-heart, inspired no doubt, by many people who helped him see the error of his words, at least in that particular case.
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jul/28/cook-column-fishing-and-talking/?opinioncolumns


Rsimms....I do too! However, he did not say that! He said he MIGHT be wrong. Furthermore, he did not apologize to trying to embarrass the wildlife officer, and insinuating he was a racist!
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#3304798 - 07/28/13 03:59 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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Exactly Diehard Hunter.

Typical dumocrap, babbled enough to bore people into thinking he said something worth hearing.

Twirp and apologize won't ever be in the same place.
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#3304826 - 07/28/13 04:26 PM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: RUGER]
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I have no respect for him, he spoke his half assed views to begin with & is trying to keep his job! tough shat sez me, I have seen other writers sell/ tell/ tall tells without a lick of common sense or knowledge about the subject they are writing about. Like writers of any subject getting a feedback/response means somebody is reading their scribbling's imo
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#3306391 - 07/30/13 11:09 AM Re: Reply to race monger "writer" [Re: BigD_625]
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 Originally Posted By: BigD_625
 Originally Posted By: TAFKAP
Let me guess, "I went extremely overboard in my column, and gauging the public reaction to it, it appears that I need to write a Part II. But this one will be a complete 180° turn from my previous stance, thereby insulating me from criticism and having us all sing Kumbaya together in a drum circle."



PS...white people are still the Debbul


Based on the follow-up. I'd say you hit the nail on the head. I'd say heck of a guess. \:D


Guess????? My left foot!
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