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#3300599 - 07/24/13 09:55 AM 2 stroke or 4 stroke
catman529
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Eventually I should have enough saved up to buy a used outboard around 20 hp for my 13 ft v-hull. Thinking ahead here, should I go with a 2 or 4 cycle motor? A 4 stroke would be more fuel efficient right? But a 2 stroke has more power and less weight which I also would like. What would you go with?
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#3300618 - 07/24/13 10:08 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: catman529]
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I can't say anything bad about a 4 stroke outboard because I have never had one. On the other hand, I have had 4 different two stroke motors in my life. All Evinrude or Johnson. A 18hp, 80hp, 9.9hp and 25hp that I have now. I can't say anything bad about those either because I have never had a problem with any of them. For me personally, I would go with a lighter motor because of some of the areas I fish can get shallow and the less draft the boat has the further I can get into my hallowed waters. I don't think you could go wrong either way. Maybe someone that has had both will chime in.
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#3300624 - 07/24/13 10:13 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Dbllunger]
catman529
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Yeah I forgot about shallow waters. Definitely need to go shallow sometimes. Plus a 2 stroke smells good. I'll see what others have to weigh in. Thanks
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#3300635 - 07/24/13 10:26 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: catman529]
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4 stroke for sure and not sure where you get info that a 2 stroke has more power.
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#3300690 - 07/24/13 11:28 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Headhunter]
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2 stroke for weight and cost.
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#3300732 - 07/24/13 12:20 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: SilverFox]
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4 stroke,love em
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#3300939 - 07/24/13 03:39 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Football Hunter]
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Love my 4 stroke. No mixing oil and gas and it is whisper quiet. I would reccomend a 25 or 35 with a jet lower unit. Mine is a 15 and when I broke the lower unit I could not get a jet lower unit that small.
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#3300942 - 07/24/13 03:41 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Craddock1]
catman529
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I think a 35 on a 13 ft aluminum boat might be over kill. Should I go with 20 or 25?
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#3300973 - 07/24/13 04:27 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: catman529]
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One of my friends has a 25 on a 14 ft flat bottom and it does pretty good.
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#3300993 - 07/24/13 04:55 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
I think a 35 on a 13 ft aluminum boat might be over kill. Should I go with 20 or 25?


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#3301003 - 07/24/13 05:09 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Hollar Hunter]
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The 2 stroke will have more horsepower per cc of displacement than the 4 stroke. However, the 4 stroke will have more torque and will me more fuel efficient. I, personally, like the simplicity of the 2 stroke and am an EPA rebel. Long Live the 2 Stroke.
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#3301006 - 07/24/13 05:11 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Hollar Hunter]
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I have a yamaha 115 2 stroke on my personal boat and never had reasons to complain, but we have a 4 stroke yammy 20hp tiller on a work boat and we just put a brand new 4 stroke yammy 90hp on another......4 stroke IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO. Quite and fuel efficient and actually, we had a 115 johnson on the boat that we just put the new yammy on. I can't say for sure because I did'nt have my gps, but I swear the 90 pushes the boat faster than the old 115.
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#3301026 - 07/24/13 05:22 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Hollar Hunter]
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Have you considered an air cooled disel? Jokin

never had a 4 stroke. had 6 evenrude 9.9 merc 18 evenrude 50 merc on boats I have owned in the past and now have a 40 evenrude on a 14 ft fiber glass trihull. There should be a max hp rating tag on your boat. I would not go more than 10hp above that.
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#3301027 - 07/24/13 05:22 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Hollar Hunter]
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Had both. I'd go with the 4 it's worth the extra $
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#3301037 - 07/24/13 05:36 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Meathunter73]
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I had a 2 stroke 15hp Yamaha and that motor would flat out run. Never had any issues out of it. It would push my 14 ft jon boat right at 28 mph with me in it only. It was more than enough power for the light jon boat. I had a 15 hp Evinrude and the drive shaft broke and a 6 hp Evinrude that would run great and then slow down after about 5 minutes at WOT. I have a 90hp Yamaha 4 stroke now and it runs great. It drinks fuel faster than the smaller motors, but then again I'm going 15 to 20 mph faster. When you get a motor, make sure it's a Yamaha. They are built better and last. On a small boat like yours, I'd go with a 2 stroke 15hp Yamaha. It will set you back about $1000, but they are worth every penny.
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#3301340 - 07/24/13 10:17 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Craddock1]
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 Originally Posted By: Craddock1
Love my 4 stroke. No mixing oil and gas and it is whisper quiet. I would reccomend a 25 or 35 with a jet lower unit. Mine is a 15 and when I broke the lower unit I could not get a jet lower unit that small.
25 horse is the smallest jet pump they make. The h.p. at the nozzle would be about 17 with a 25 h.p. motor. A new jet pump would set you back about $1700.

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#3301345 - 07/24/13 10:25 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Hollar Hunter]
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I have a 2 stroke yamaha 90hp and love it \:\)

but that being said I wish it was a 4 stroke...What ever you get do your research before buying...I did and found out that yamaha and Suzuki make awesome, dependable motors...
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#3301347 - 07/24/13 10:27 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Model70Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
I had a 2 stroke 15hp Yamaha and that motor would flat out run. Never had any issues out of it. It would push my 14 ft jon boat right at 28 mph with me in it only. It was more than enough power for the light jon boat. I had a 15 hp Evinrude and the drive shaft broke and a 6 hp Evinrude that would run great and then slow down after about 5 minutes at WOT. I have a 90hp Yamaha 4 stroke now and it runs great. It drinks fuel faster than the smaller motors, but then again I'm going 15 to 20 mph faster. When you get a motor, make sure it's a Yamaha. They are built better and last. On a small boat like yours, I'd go with a 2 stroke 15hp Yamaha. It will set you back about $1000, but they are worth every penny.
as I just posted I have a 2 stroke, but I wouldn't own anything other than a Yamaha...
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#3301382 - 07/25/13 12:29 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: DBLAARCHERY]
catman529
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Well before asking, I already was leaning toward a Merc or Yamaha. Seems like a lot here like the Yamaha motors. Seems kind of split between 2 and 4 stroke. Almost might lean toward a 4 stroke now but not completely decided yet. Thanks everyone for the input. Plenty of time ahead as I save some cash for a good motor. Most likely won't get one till some time next year. Right now I have a 5 hp Briggs 4 stroke and a 7 hp Sears 2 stroke and I haven't got the Sears to run yet (it sat for a while). Was given to me by a guy I met fishing who had no desire for the motor. It's an old one too. Both motors are air cooled but the Sears has an impeller to cool the lower part of the motor... hope I can get her running good, to hold me over for a bigger motor. I would anticipate roughly 7 mph out of the Briggs 5 horse but haven't tried yet - need to check for faulty fuel pump on the briggs.
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#3301393 - 07/25/13 12:53 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: catman529]
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I have a 97 model 25hp Yamaha 2 stroke I bought new. never had a problem.
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#3301437 - 07/25/13 06:07 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: stik]
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I have run a lot of motors over the years and I wouldn't go back to a 2 stroke if I had the choice.

1. Have you priced 2 cycle oil lately? Its messy, smoky, and one more thing that can go wrong.

2. With our modern gas mixes, it seems like the 2 cycle mixed gas breaks down quickly. I think its the ethanol and 'environmentally safer' gas mixes.

3. My 4 stroke doesn't foul plugs like a 2 stroke.

4. 4 stroke starts much easier.

5. The 4 stroke is much quieter. Its a fishing boat, not a dragster so stealth is a benefit.
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#3301595 - 07/25/13 08:44 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: fishboy1]
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On a small outboard 4 stroke for sure! Be careful on size however as I just sold a 14 ft Jon and a 15 hp 4 stroke separately, as it was too much motor for this particular boat!
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#3301631 - 07/25/13 09:28 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
Well before asking, I already was leaning toward a Merc or Yamaha. Seems like a lot here like the Yamaha motors. Seems kind of split between 2 and 4 stroke. Almost might lean toward a 4 stroke now but not completely decided yet. Thanks everyone for the input. Plenty of time ahead as I save some cash for a good motor. Most likely won't get one till some time next year. Right now I have a 5 hp Briggs 4 stroke and a 7 hp Sears 2 stroke and I haven't got the Sears to run yet (it sat for a while). Was given to me by a guy I met fishing who had no desire for the motor. It's an old one too. Both motors are air cooled but the Sears has an impeller to cool the lower part of the motor... hope I can get her running good, to hold me over for a bigger motor. I would anticipate roughly 7 mph out of the Briggs 5 horse but haven't tried yet - need to check for faulty fuel pump on the briggs.


Its kinda one of those things where if you buy a 2 stroke, more than likely you will be happy for the time you have it and it will suit your needs just fine...BUT when/if you switch to a 4 stroke, you'll wish you had bought it first...I know I was completely satisfied with my 115 2 stroke, but I use boats for my job and ever since we switched to mainly 4 strokes, I wish now I had spent a little more and got a 4 stroke yamaha 115 when I bought my boat new....
I've had mercs and yamaha's on my personal boats. The merc was ok, but I'd give yamaha the edge everytime. I have friends that swear by Honda 4strokes on their duck boats, but I have no personal experience with using them.
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#3301641 - 07/25/13 09:39 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: rukiddin?]
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dont know much bout boat motors but dirtbikes if it dont smoke its a joke
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#3301785 - 07/25/13 11:48 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: wlf89]
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People forget about why 2 strokes are practically illegal. I put a 2 stroke into a clean barrel and ran it for only five minutes and the barrel was coated with a black film that just wouldn't come off. No way I want to do that to the Caney.

My last two outboards are Merc four strokes and they start effortlessly, sip gas, you can talk in normal tones to your shipmates, and there is no oil film on the water nor is there smoke.

Get the most horsepower for the weight. Basically the 20 weighs same as the 15, the 30 weighs the same as the 25. A 20 HP four stroke weighs within ten pounds of the old 25 2 strokes and is only 3 to 5 mph slower
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#3301989 - 07/25/13 03:18 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: jakeway]
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I'm running a 60hp four stroke merc and so far so good can't say a bad thing about it.
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#3302043 - 07/25/13 04:04 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: TNTomtaker01]
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I put a 20HP 4 stroke remote on my 14ft and it makes it move great- Not a hint of a problem out of it in 4yrs- love it
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#3302240 - 07/25/13 08:02 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: bigluresonly]
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Not sure there'd be an upside to running a jet on a v-hull.
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#3302749 - 07/26/13 10:12 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Hangnail]
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On a budget, I think you can get a lot newer, more HP, and less weight 2 stroke for the money it would cost to get a well used, lower hp, heavier 4 stroke. If money wasn't an issue, I would only own 4 stroke.... however, I have only owned 1.
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#3303588 - 07/27/13 07:21 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Urban_Hunter]
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On your boat Catdaddy, I would go with a two stroke.
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#3303857 - 07/27/13 01:56 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Hollar Hunter]
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Check this out Catman!
http://nashville.craigslist.org/boa/3919826622.html
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#3303949 - 07/27/13 04:12 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: DBLAARCHERY]
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 Originally Posted By: DBLAARCHERY
not a bad deal. However I do have an old sears motor 7.0 hp 2 stroke that was given to me recently. Finally got her running today and plan to be on water Monday. It's an air cooled motor but the lower part/exhaust is water cooled. Must be a '70s model but so far it runs good. 24:1 gas oil mix dang that's gonna be smoky. Hope it pushes my boat well until I can afford a 20 or 25 hp.
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#3304099 - 07/27/13 06:46 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: catman529]
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I have had 2 4 strokes. A 30 and the 90 yammi that is on my sea ark now. I have had experience with 2 strokes and would say without a doubt that I would go back with a 4 stroke again if I was buying another motor. Ease of maintenance, no mixing oil and gas, quiet, starts easy and just generally enjoyable to run wide WOT and still be bale to talk. Not to mention my 4 stroke 90 pushes my boat at 44 mph gps without a steel prop or jack plate. I know several people with 2 stroke motors on boats similar to mine that are several miles an hour slower. It may just be a prefference but that is mine.
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#3305377 - 07/29/13 01:15 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: stik]
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Love my two strokes I have had 4,9.9, 15,20,25 and 125HP. never had a 4 stroke so I can't compare the two.
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#3305387 - 07/29/13 01:24 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Slaughter-06]
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I've got a 40hp 4 stroke jet and LOVE IT! It's quiet and all I have to do is pull up to gas pump and fill up the tank. Of course I am lucky enough to be right by a gas station that has non ethanol gas. In your situation I would probably go 2 stroke because of the less weight and cost.
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#3306015 - 07/29/13 10:21 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: WingNut]
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 Originally Posted By: WingNut
I've got a 40hp 4 stroke jet and LOVE IT! It's quiet and all I have to do is pull up to gas pump and fill up the tank. Of course I am lucky enough to be right by a gas station that has non ethanol gas. In your situation I would probably go 2 stroke because of the less weight and cost.
wow you have time to type but cant answer your phone............ \:\/
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#3306060 - 07/30/13 12:07 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: DBLAARCHERY]
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 Originally Posted By: DBLAARCHERY
 Originally Posted By: WingNut
I've got a 40hp 4 stroke jet and LOVE IT! It's quiet and all I have to do is pull up to gas pump and fill up the tank. Of course I am lucky enough to be right by a gas station that has non ethanol gas. In your situation I would probably go 2 stroke because of the less weight and cost.
wow you have time to type but cant answer your phone............ \:\/
most die hard Tndeer members would rather be on Tndeer than answering the phone. \:D
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#3306205 - 07/30/13 08:10 AM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: DBLAARCHERY]
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 Originally Posted By: DBLAARCHERY
 Originally Posted By: WingNut
I've got a 40hp 4 stroke jet and LOVE IT! It's quiet and all I have to do is pull up to gas pump and fill up the tank. Of course I am lucky enough to be right by a gas station that has non ethanol gas. In your situation I would probably go 2 stroke because of the less weight and cost.
wow you have time to type but cant answer your phone............ \:\/


The phone was in the boat. If you would have taken the time to look over the bank of the river you would have seen me and said boat right there and we could have talked. I saw your truck before I saw that I missed your call. ;\)
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#3309152 - 08/01/13 07:07 PM Re: 2 stroke or 4 stroke [Re: Hollar Hunter]
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4 stroke is where its at! no oil gas mixing bull**** lol
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