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#3293688 - 07/17/13 07:19 AM Showdown: TX Deer Breeders vs. The People
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Mud Dauber
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Which side are you on?

http://www.dallasobserver.com/content/printVersion/3154669/

In a lawsuit filed on his behalf by Dallas attorney Steven M. Griggs in April, Anderton is seeking the return of his breeder permit and compensation for his deer. His complaint attacks the foundation of TPW regulatory authority over deer breeders the Texas statute that says all wildlife belongs to the state. "... A person's legally obtained property may be seized at any time by the state, without due process of law and without any administrative or legal remedy," he argues. This, he claims, violates his constitutional rights.

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"But because game species like whitetail deer are no longer in danger of extinction, the industry wonders whether the prevailing public trust model is outdated."

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"Academicians and wildlife scientists still have this attitude that is good in many ways but needs to evolve with the times."
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#3293713 - 07/17/13 07:53 AM Re: Showdown: TX Deer Breeders vs. The People [Re: Poser]
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"... A person's legally obtained property may be seized at any time by the state, without due process of law and without any administrative or legal remedy," he argues. This, he claims, violates his constitutional rights.


Well, I'm definitely not for ^^this^^ for sure. I'm not sure of the rest of the details of his claim, the possible unknown "how's and why's", but I'm for sure not in support of my property being seized without due process of law, and, w/o any legal recourse.
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#3293718 - 07/17/13 07:55 AM Re: Showdown: TX Deer Breeders vs. The People [Re: MUP]
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Mud Dauber
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
"... A person's legally obtained property may be seized at any time by the state, without due process of law and without any administrative or legal remedy," he argues. This, he claims, violates his constitutional rights.


Well, I'm definitely not for ^^this^^ for sure. I'm not sure of the rest of the details of his claim, the possible unknown "how's and why's", but I'm for sure not in support of my property being seized without due process of law, and, w/o any legal recourse.


Well, that is the question: Are those deer your property or do they belong to the people of Texas and managed by the state game agency?
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#3293763 - 07/17/13 08:54 AM Re: Showdown: TX Deer Breeders vs. The People [Re: Poser]
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That's a tough one for sure...on one hand, they are state property, as the state does manage for the herd I guess, but, then again, while they are on my very own property, I wouldn't want anyone saying they could come across my land and take them, without asking and getting my permission first, and with a good reason.
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#3294125 - 07/17/13 04:07 PM Re: Showdown: TX Deer Breeders vs. The People [Re: MUP]
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dont know if it was on here i read but kinda the same deal with netting turkeys, wildlife officials didnt have to ask your permission can just show up on your property & take them
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#3294261 - 07/17/13 07:00 PM Re: Showdown: TX Deer Breeders vs. The People [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
Which side are you on?


I'm deeply, deeply, DEEPLY and strongly opposed to commercial cervid farming and the translocation of cervids.
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#3294312 - 07/17/13 08:28 PM Re: Showdown: TX Deer Breeders vs. The People [Re: BSK]
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I don't know James Kroll, but the more I read about him, the more I'd like to kick him in the nuts.
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#3294750 - 07/18/13 10:07 AM Re: Showdown: TX Deer Breeders vs. The People [Re: Poser]
Andy S.
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
I don't know James Kroll, but the more I read about him, the more I'd like to kick him in the nuts.
Based on this, I'd say you are getting to know him pretty well. \:\)
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