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#3292448 - 07/15/13 10:31 PM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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BSK, how does blackberry crop help? Is that something deer love to chow down on? tons and tons of them in one of my spots. Far too many for the deer to ever deplete.
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#3292586 - 07/16/13 07:16 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
BSK, how does blackberry crop help? Is that something deer love to chow down on? tons and tons of them in one of my spots. Far too many for the deer to ever deplete.


They will deplete them at some point. They love them and usually don't last too long
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#3292616 - 07/16/13 08:02 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
BSK, how does blackberry crop help? Is that something deer love to chow down on? tons and tons of them in one of my spots. Far too many for the deer to ever deplete.


Soft mast (berries and fruit) are an important nutritional source in summer, and blackberries are one of the earliest and most prolific berries available during antler growth.
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#3292638 - 07/16/13 08:24 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: BSK]
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I know that deer love blackberries, but how do blackberries enhance antler growth? Assuming there is an abundance of other food items higher in protein, wouldn't a diet more of soybeans and clover grow larger antlers than a diet where lots of blackberries are replacing lots of higher-protein items?
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#3292668 - 07/16/13 08:51 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
I know that deer love blackberries, but how do blackberries enhance antler growth? Assuming there is an abundance of other food items higher in protein, wouldn't a diet more of soybeans and clover grow larger antlers than a diet where lots of blackberries are replacing lots of higher-protein items?


A growing body of evidence suggests the amount of readily available "energy" in a deer's diet is a huge player in performance (including antler development), perhaps even more important than protein content. Sugars, like those found in fruits and berries, are one of the easiest molecules to convert to energy.
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#3293003 - 07/16/13 01:14 PM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: BSK]
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Seems like its getting kind of dry in the Perry co area,showers and fronts just missing my place lately.
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#3293010 - 07/16/13 01:21 PM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
Seems like its getting kind of dry in the Perry co area,showers and fronts just missing my place lately.


Sure is for your area. Perry County is at the core of the driest part of the Midstate, receiving only around an inch of rain since the beginning of July.
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#3293021 - 07/16/13 01:30 PM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
Seems like its getting kind of dry in the Perry co area,showers and fronts just missing my place lately.


Sure is for your area. Perry County is at the core of the driest part of the Midstate, receiving only around an inch of rain since the beginning of July.



Our place in Hickman is in the same shoes. Right close to the Perry line
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#3295666 - 07/19/13 07:24 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
Considering the current deep soil moisture for mid-July, would even a severe drought (beginning today thru Fall) have much effect on remaining antler growth?


I was worried that the current hot spell was the first indication of a change in weather patterns from the cooler and wetter pattern we've experienced the first half of the summer to a hot and dry pattern for the end of summer like we've seen the last few years. However, after looking at as many long-range predictions and models as I can find, I don't think that's the case. The trend in predictions/models is a return to wet and cooler than normal weather for August. Wouldn't that be a change! How long has it been since we had a wet/cool August?
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#3295677 - 07/19/13 07:35 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: BSK]
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All I know is we got over another inch of rain in Stewart County last night. \:D

And I suspect many of the bucks people are getting pics, thinking they're 3 1/2, are actually 2 1/2 year old bucks!

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