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#3292771 - 07/16/13 10:06 AM New muzzleloader
de novo
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After a two year absence I plan on muzzle loading this year. I don't want to spend a lot of money on a new package.

Any thoughts on the CVA Optima V2?

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/...%3Bcat104533380
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#3292906 - 07/16/13 11:49 AM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: de novo]
BuckHunter511
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Don't do it, check out this: http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/...%3Bcat104533380
It has been THE BEST! I like it better than Dad's CVA Accura! Its compact, light, and shoots tight groups.
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#3292911 - 07/16/13 11:50 AM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: BuckHunter511]
BuckHunter511
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I got my combo for like $380 with scope. I think its a Konus scope, but heck it does the job.
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#3293284 - 07/16/13 05:55 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: BuckHunter511]
de novo
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thanks for the feedback
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#3293293 - 07/16/13 06:06 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: de novo]
serriaman07
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IMO I would start watching for Walmart to put out there CVA I bought the stainless steel optima with as thumb whole stock for $289 but it didn't have a scope bass mounts where $30 and I had a knous scope gave to me but you can get the same gun that has the black stock non camo at bass pro for $389 with the everything including the scope
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#3293314 - 07/16/13 06:30 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: serriaman07]
Roost 1
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If you are just wanting something fairly cheap to get back in the game I got a knight wolverine in the classifieds ready to shoot.. Scope, bullets, and powder..
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#3293326 - 07/16/13 06:45 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: Roost 1]
r'ville a-bolt
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i luv cva
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#3293339 - 07/16/13 06:58 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: r'ville a-bolt]
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Everyone told me buy a t/c encore so I bought one and there not all what everyone cracked up to be they are not worth the money after my father in law bought his optima and I shot it I sold my t/c bought a optima and I wouldn't trade for nothing
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#3293477 - 07/16/13 08:51 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: serriaman07]
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roost has the best deal for under 300 you will not beat his deal!!!
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#3293540 - 07/16/13 10:23 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: knightrider]
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In the end, they all kill deer! \:\)
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#3293554 - 07/16/13 11:11 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: serriaman07]
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 Originally Posted By: serriaman07
Everyone told me buy a t/c encore so I bought one and there not all what everyone cracked up to be they are not worth the money after my father in law bought his optima and I shot it I sold my t/c bought a optima and I wouldn't trade for nothing


I had the same thing. Entire Encore package- rifle, ML, and turkey barrel. It was OK but nothing special.

 Originally Posted By: knightrider
roost has the best deal for under 300 you will not beat his deal!!!


For a black powder gun and my peace of mind I prefer a new one. Looking to stay under $500-600 for total package.
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#3293962 - 07/17/13 12:46 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: de novo]
Ed B
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I have a TC impact as well and love the gun, no experience with the others though so nothing to compare against. I'm sure they are all good guns, it seems to all be in how you take care of them no matter the brand.
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#3293992 - 07/17/13 01:17 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: Ed B]
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TC Impact cough cough ( stainless barrel and camo stock)
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#3295617 - 07/19/13 05:42 AM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: BuckHunter511]
r'ville a-bolt
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bought the cva apex at Benton last year for 575 last year no scope. it took 4 deer last year and shoots 150 grains 777 pellets 223 grain powerbelts. a couple of my friends and family members liked their cva so I bought that one. my dad is diehard tc but last year after I killed 2 eight pts during ml I let him use it the next day he dropped two in there tracks. he didn't make fun of me for going cva instead of tc anymore. bottom line its like bows,trucks,and everything else all the companies make a good one in affordable price range good luck finding yours
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#3296140 - 07/19/13 03:55 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: r'ville a-bolt]
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I was going to buy an accrua but I ended up the the optima after have the t/c encore I am not really a fan of changing barrels at the range us I like a bolt action rifle a lot better then a single shot
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#3297959 - 07/21/13 06:47 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: serriaman07]
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If you wanting an inline that works and wont break the bank then I would suggest a CVA wolf. I bought one for my wife last year, $169 at wally world, a $50 thompson scope/kit, $50 at same place. Shoot 100gr of pyrodex pellets and a 245 gr power belt hollow point. Shot it 4 times to zero the scope and she shot it one time with a kill. Don't fall for the hype man, most deer are killed under well under 100 yards.
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#3298057 - 07/21/13 08:12 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: Grill-n-man]
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I bought a CVA Electra from Sportsman's Guide a few years ago for dirt cheap and I love it. The only drawback is they will not ship a muzzleloader to TN.
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#3299096 - 07/22/13 07:19 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: BuckHunter511]
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Check this out. I bought my V2 this year. One trip to the range so far. Excellent rifle, however, my buddy out shot me with his Optima. Hmmmm....

http://www.namlhunt.com/mlrifle7.html
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#3299161 - 07/22/13 08:34 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: adirondack46r]
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If you want an ACCURATE as SIN load for a CVA,
300gr Harvester Scorpion PT Gold, E-Z Load sabot " Black smooth", 110gr blackhorn209, CCI 209M primers. That load today in the Apex @ 100 yards literally had 3 shots touching. A bit firm to load but if you know how to hold the ramrod, no trouble at all.

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#3299175 - 07/22/13 08:42 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: adirondack46r]
serriaman07
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No way I would buy a wolf one the guys in our club bought one and we spent half a day at the range with that gun trying to get it to group it couldn't handle the 150 grains white hots shot all over the paper change bullets from power belts to burnes and it helped a little bit he ended up having to go to loose powered at 85 grains and 245 hornady SST bullet shot group of 2 to 3 inches at 100 yards
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#3299183 - 07/22/13 08:46 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: serriaman07]
serriaman07
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I know one thing my optmia loves the 295 gr. SST it shots 1 inch groups at 150 yards
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#3299186 - 07/22/13 08:50 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: serriaman07]
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 Originally Posted By: serriaman07
No way I would buy a wolf one the guys in our club bought one and we spent half a day at the range with that gun trying to get it to group it couldn't handle the 150 grains white hots shot all over the paper change bullets from power belts to burnes and it helped a little bit he ended up having to go to loose powered at 85 grains and 245 hornady SST bullet shot group of 2 to 3 inches at 100 yards


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#3299299 - 07/22/13 11:13 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: FrontierGander]
serriaman07
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Not that one had in a gun vice could be the scope but its not likely cause it shoots way diff. You change sabot it just of the ones where he will have to find what shots best out of it
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#3299306 - 07/22/13 11:54 PM Re: New muzzleloader [Re: serriaman07]
FrontierGander
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Ditch the pellets. They start losing their power after a year. Primers will cause bad accuracy to if its not the right kind for the powder being used. Not swabbing the bore between shots, all that affects a muzzleloaders accuracy.
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