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#3291988 - 07/15/13 11:46 AM Re: Lessons learned from the George Zimmerman trial [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
I would ask, "What has happened to the legal presumption of innocence until proven guilty?"


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#3292012 - 07/15/13 12:16 PM Re: Lessons learned from the George Zimmerman trial [Re: Crappie Luck]
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If I'm ever in such a situation, Imma try to remember to say "I'm not sure" if dispatch asks about skin color.
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#3292035 - 07/15/13 12:56 PM Re: Lessons learned from the George Zimmerman trial [Re: BamaProud]
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 Originally Posted By: BamaProud
 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
I would ask, "What has happened to the legal presumption of innocence until proven guilty?"


Winner.

What became most evident to me during this whole trial process is that most people don't have a clue about how our justice system works. The whole concept(s) of Innocent until proven guilty and the burden of proof lying solely on the prosecution seems foreign to a lot of people. People wanted Zimmerman to prove his innocence. It doesn't work that way.

Even the prosecutor Persecutor told the jury that GZ had not proven his innocence beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's NOT how the system is supposed to work.
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#3292040 - 07/15/13 12:59 PM Re: Lessons learned from the George Zimmerman trial [Re: BMan]
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 Originally Posted By: BMan
 Originally Posted By: BamaProud
 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
I would ask, "What has happened to the legal presumption of innocence until proven guilty?"


Winner.

What became most evident to me during this whole trial process is that most people don't have a clue about how our justice system works. The whole concept(s) of Innocent until proven guilty and the burden of proof lying solely on the prosecution seems foreign to a lot of people. People wanted Zimmerman to prove his innocence. It doesn't work that way.

Even the prosecutor Persecutor told the jury that GZ had not proven his innocence beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's NOT how the system is supposed to work.


They've also said Trayvon did not get a jury of his peers since it was an all white jury.
Trayvon was NOT on trial. George was.

They are turning our Justice system inside out.
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#3292051 - 07/15/13 01:11 PM Re: Lessons learned from the George Zimmerman trial [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck

They've also said Trayvon did not get a jury of his peers since it was an all white jury.
Trayvon was NOT on trial. George was.

They are turning our Justice system inside out.


Yep...and non of them bother to mention both the prosecution and the defense had equal say so over Jury selection.
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#3292070 - 07/15/13 01:31 PM Re: Lessons learned from the George Zimmerman trial [Re: BamaProud]
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 Originally Posted By: BamaProud
 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck

They've also said Trayvon did not get a jury of his peers since it was an all white jury.
Trayvon was NOT on trial. George was.

They are turning our Justice system inside out.


Yep...and non of them bother to mention both the prosecution and the defense had equal say so over Jury selection.


Exactly. Also, the prosecution refused to allow at least one black to serve on the jury.
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#3292071 - 07/15/13 01:33 PM Re: Lessons learned from the George Zimmerman trial [Re: farmin68]
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