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#3281698 - 07/03/13 03:42 PM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: smstone22]
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#3281748 - 07/03/13 04:37 PM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: smstone22]
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 Originally Posted By: smstone22
There is so much quality browse available that I have small plots of beans,lablab, etc that are going untouched. Superb is definitely the word. We are over 10 inches above this date last year.

SUPERB! \:D

Perhaps 2013 will be THE YEAR that Tennessee's long-standing record for a typical whitetail will be bested!

Remains amazing that our Tennessee Record Typical was taken in 1959, and hasn't been equaled now in over 50 years. Also amazing, it was taken in an Eastern part of TN, mountainous area of poor soil and little agriculture.

I bet 1959 was also a SUPERB year! \:D

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#3282103 - 07/04/13 08:10 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
I bet 1959 was also a SUPERB year! \:D


Or perhaps that buck was just a genetic freak. If he had lived in Iowa, he might have been a 240-inch world record. What he actual grew may have been all the local environment could grow for what was world-class potential.
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#3282321 - 07/04/13 12:22 PM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: smstone22]
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 Originally Posted By: smstone22
There is so much quality browse available that I have small plots of beans,lablab, etc that are going untouched. Superb is definitely the word. We are over 10 inches above this date last year.


That's always a good sign. Our timber cuts are booming now in their 3rd and 4th year. Plenty of cover to hold them in there this year for sure.
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#3282625 - 07/04/13 07:56 PM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
I bet 1959 was also a SUPERB year! \:D


Or perhaps that buck was just a genetic freak. If he had lived in Iowa, he might have been a 240-inch world record. What he actual grew may have been all the local environment could grow for what was world-class potential.

I agree, but I also already know 1959 was a SUPERB year. \:\)

If 1959 had had very poor antler-growing conditions, it's doubtful the Foster buck would have had such a large rack that year, even with his superior genetic potential.

My hope is the conditions are so superb this year, that many bucks with top-end antler genetics will express much more of their potential than we would typically see. In fact, I believe the odds are very high that 2013 will produce a new Tennessee record typical that tops that "freak" buck taken back in 1959 by Sonny Foster. I'd even take that speculation a step farther by saying it will likely be a mainframe 5x5 that "appears" much more "massive" than the Foster buck. \:\)

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#3291672 - 07/15/13 06:53 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Uh-oh. Looks like we're going a few days this week without any rain.
But believe it's now a "done deal" on "we've had incredible antler-growing conditions" across most of TN.

Considering the current deep soil moisture for mid-July, would even a severe drought (beginning today thru Fall) have much effect on remaining antler growth?

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#3291692 - 07/15/13 07:05 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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At this point, doubtful. Conditions for antler growth are pretty much a done deal.
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#3291700 - 07/15/13 07:16 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Conditions for antler growth are pretty much a done deal.

I realize that over time, many localized TN herds have become less "acorn-driven" (a big positive?), and would think that the case where you've been keeping detailed records for decades in Humphreys County.

Considering the 2012 acorn crop, the 2013 Spring, have you ever seen better overall conditions for say Humphreys County than 2013?

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#3291756 - 07/15/13 08:17 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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I haven't seen better over-all conditions, considering all factors: number of years in a row with a good acorn crop, including two good red oak acorn crops in a row; mild winter; cool and wet spring and summer; excellent browse production; excellent blackberry crop, etc.
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#3291770 - 07/15/13 08:28 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
I haven't seen better over-all conditions . . . .

Same here in Stewart County, although my observations are more casual and anecdotal compared to yours. \:\)

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