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#3276072 - 06/26/13 11:22 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: knightrider]
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Registered: 08/01/03
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Loc: Kingston Springs

 Originally Posted By: knightrider
 Originally Posted By: Deer Assassin
 Originally Posted By: knightrider
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: knightrider
if a kid cant hit a 6in circle at 100 how do you expect them to kill a deer when the nerves hit! if you gut shoot it, it doesn't matter what you use! there isn't a deer made that a well placed shot with a quality bullet out of a 243 that can hold it! but that's just my observation lol

many kids can hit a 6 inch circle AT THE RANGE every time. it's a whole different situation with an inexperienced hunter shooting at live game.

the 7mm-08 is the best youth/light recoil whitetail round ever made.
and if thats the case than the 7mm-08 isnt going to help a bit more than the 243 because guts are guts if they cant hit them because of nerves

same for a 300 ultra mag

and your point is........

any kid than can shoot a 243 can shoot a 7/08 no issues whats so ever
my point is one doesnt kill any better than the other a hole through the goodies is a hole through the goodies. dead is dead no matter what its killed with!!!!!!!!!! so there is no reason to say 243 isnt a good choice for kids or adults!!

same can be said for the .223 as well but people will draw the line at 243 and say .224 is to small of a hole not enough power but a "hole through the goodies is a hole through the goodies"

Personally I feel a .223 is plenty of power and bullet to kill a deer. the 243 is a fine cartridge has killed plenty of deer, but i could care less about it dont like it one bit.
The 7/08 is a more versatile round in my opinion. the 140 reduced recoil and my favorite 120 nbt over 40 gn re 15 @2725 fps has no noticeable recoil. I have taken several kids to kill deer with it at all ages including my step daughter which dont like shooting a 22lr, and they handled it fine

I have never stated the 243 wont kill deer it aint a bad choice but it is not my choice
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#3278815 - 06/29/13 11:54 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: redblood]
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Registered: 01/29/04
Posts: 9113
Loc: Middle Tennessee

 Originally Posted By: redblood
u will find that caliber is far less important than LOP- Length of pull.

The most relevant and valid post of this entire thread, or any other thread about the best deer rifle for someone of small stature.
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#3279237 - 06/30/13 07:22 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: lightfoot]
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my girls 10 and 8, both shoot a T/C Encore in a 243. Deadly. they love it, however we practice with the 22 all yr. long.
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#3281654 - 07/03/13 02:53 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: AllOutdoors]
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Registered: 01/17/06
Posts: 8467
Loc: Collierville,TN.

 Originally Posted By: AllOutdoors
7-08. If recoil is thought to be a problem.......managed recoil ammo.My daughter started at 7 with a 7-08 with reduced handloads. 260 is a great round as well.

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#3282017 - 07/04/13 12:12 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: redblood]
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Registered: 07/05/00
Posts: 1535
Loc: Soddy Daisy,TN

 Originally Posted By: redblood
u will find that caliber is far less important than LOP- Length of pull.

That's what is so often overlooked in youth guns. I got the H&R Superlight because of the short length of pull. As she grows I can change to the adult size stock for $30 and she still has a fine hunting rifle. I also bought her a Mossberg 510 mini last year because the LOP is really short (it also included a spacer to add an inch as she grows).

Fit for kids is extremely important, and what I found was a lot of "youth" models of popular rifles and shotguns still had huge length of pulls for a 9-11 year old. If the gun doesn't fit, they'll not be as happy to shoot it.

Edited by Orion6 (07/04/13 12:13 AM)

#3286857 - 07/09/13 07:21 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: Orion6]
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Registered: 11/22/99
Posts: 3619
Loc: Hendersonville, TN, USA

I'm a big fan of the Ruger M77 Compact and I think the 260 is the PERFECT deer round for any one any age. I have nearly identical Compacts (Stainless with grey laminate stocks)one in 243 and one in 260. My oldest granddaughter used the 243 for the first two years, then she "graduated" to the 260 when her younger sister started using the 243.

BTW, we stress accuracy and had her practice a lot (centerfire and 22) before season. Both these deer were heart shots from a tree stand and some challenging angles.

Here is her first ever group with the 243, and her first two deer:

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#3287081 - 07/10/13 04:54 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: jakeway]

Registered: 08/01/07
Posts: 46480
Loc: Just North of Chatt-town

That's some awesome shooting! Congrats to the young lady on the sharp shootin', and the deer!

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