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#328120 - 08/05/07 07:21 PM Re: how do you plan a long range HUNTING rifle [Re: mr.big]
TiminTN
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I agree your velocity requirements are met with that case.
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#328129 - 08/05/07 07:26 PM Re: how do you plan a long range HUNTING rifle [Re: TiminTN]
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No brainer then,

You just need a 264 win mag.

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#328305 - 08/05/07 09:23 PM Re: how do you plan a long range HUNTING rifle [Re: megalomaniac]
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If I am planning a long range rig for the up coming season I'll look for a gun with a heavy 24-26" barrel in .308 or any similar 7mm or .30 magnum then find a load it likes and ofcourse top it with a big target scope
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#328359 - 08/05/07 09:44 PM Re: how do you plan a long range HUNTING rifle [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: DEER ASSASSIN
i plan on using evey one knowledge i can



and just for pmc

the smk kill deer just fine all day long \:D


Your dang skippy they will. \:D

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#328521 - 08/06/07 02:51 AM Re: how do you plan a long range HUNTING rifle [Re: PMC, certified]
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if I can get 3200 with the 06AI case with 62+/- grs of powder why would I want a 264 and burn 72 grs??
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#328537 - 08/06/07 06:00 AM Re: how do you plan a long range HUNTING rifle [Re: mr.big]
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Definately go the efficient (sp) route.

Excuse my spelling.

I wonder if a bushing swap in an FL, S-Type Redding die would get a guy a 6.5 Shamu going?
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#328556 - 08/06/07 06:27 AM Re: how do you plan a long range HUNTING rifle [Re: PMC, certified]
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sooo many options,,I am looking to get the highest Bc in the smallest bore that will go fast enough for 700 yard shots without it being so overbore it wont last 500 rounds,,I am convinced it will be some case with about 65 or so grs case capacity in 6.5 or 75 grs in 7mm.with the early edge going to the 6.5,,the 6mm-06 with the 117 Tubb bullet is not out either.kinda worried about bbl life on that one though.

if I was Building it today ,I would start with my Blue Steel 700 standard long action,with the Jewel trigger,send it to whoever does Tims Bench Guns and tell them I want whatever bbl they recomend as BEST,to be finished at 28 inches,and chambered for the 280 AI case necked to 6.5 throated so the 130 AB would stop just out front of the donut and be .005 short of the rifilings,the bbl would be a tad lighter than the Rem varmint probably .700 at the muzzle,the stock I would love to be wood but will go with a McMillian more than likely,the mounts would be Leupold MK4,and the scope a 5.5-16 Nightforce,then send the whole thing off and have it finished like PMC`s Whisper.

that should shoot a heavy enough bullet with a high enough SD to kill at range and a high enough BC fast enough to hit at range and the rig should be accurate enough to leave the blame to the nut behind the trigger.
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#328558 - 08/06/07 06:30 AM Re: how do you plan a long range HUNTING rifle [Re: TiminTN]
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 Originally Posted By: TiminTN
Definately go the efficient (sp) route.

Excuse my spelling.

I wonder if a bushing swap in an FL, S-Type Redding die would get a guy a 6.5 Shamu going?


if you started with the 7mm case it should,,the 6.5 RSAUM and the 280AI case would be near the same capacity wouldnt they??

I have a M7 300RSAUM I got in a trade I havent shot but the other one I had didn`t feed and only held 2+1 while the 700 SA may handle it better.
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#328568 - 08/06/07 06:42 AM Re: how do you plan a long range HUNTING rifle [Re: mr.big]
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That would get it done nicely.

My smith builds all my stuff, not just the bench guns, and is a super guy. I can tell you he will recommend Krieger or Bartlein.

I have had such great luck with Krieger, I see no need to change. I ordered 2 more a month or so ago, for the bench guns.

I have a 6 Dasher reamer needs using.

The fun is the planning and it will drive you crazy waiting.
If/when you decide something definate, a reamer order will be necessary.

I can assist you with that, and I use a guy he recommended for that. It is a lengthy process so I`d get things going asap.

Reamer prices will run around the $200.00 mark, and take a few months.

No money down, as this is a prince of a guy as well.
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#328572 - 08/06/07 06:51 AM Re: how do you plan a long range HUNTING rifle [Re: mr.big]
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You added another post I missed, the Saum and the 280AI cases seem to be very similar.
I`d use a 700 S/A and do a Wyatts modification. I have extra followers made special for the Wyatts box, I`d let you have 1.

The Wyatts box is a deal maker. You ought to see how this looks.
I am not saying it is better than your idea at all, just another option.
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