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#3286628 - 07/09/13 02:19 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Wes Parrish]
Hollar Hunter
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: Andy S.
You gotta love the older mature bucks and the character they bring to the table.

Yes, and to me, a fully mature buck with his unique and often massive antlers, is a much better "trophy" than a 2 1/2 or 3 1/2-yr-old buck that "scores" much higher on the B&C scoring system.

Say you see two bucks at a distance, one is a 150-class 10-point 3 1/2 with 4 1/2" bases and the typical long tines that adds 10 to 20 inches to his "score"; the other is a 130-class 8-point 5 1/2 with 6" bases and more average tine length: That 130-class mature buck will be the the one that "stands out" as a massive set of antlers, while you hardly notice the long tines on the younger buck.

So for me, "mass" trumps "score", and older trumps younger, in defining a trophy buck. The popular B&C scoring system over-values tine length while under-valuing overall "mass", while totally failing to recognize the value of maturity over luck (the luck of good antler genetics on a particular animal).


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I've only had that scenario happen once and it was at 20 yds but when you see a very mature heavy horned buck next to a 3.5 that scores better the decision was easily made to shoot the old beast!
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#3286687 - 07/09/13 03:43 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Hollar Hunter]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
I've only had that scenario happen once and it was at 20 yds but when you see a very mature heavy horned buck next to a 3.5 that scores better the decision was easily made to shoot the old beast!

Side by side, I believe MOST hunters wouldn't even consider the B&C score of one buck vs. the other, as the massive mature antlers would "stand out" as the heavier rack, better "trophy" antlers.

Scores are for ball games.

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#3286947 - 07/09/13 08:57 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Hollar Hunter]
mathews338
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 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
I've enjoyed seeing these stud bucks you have every year! My question is have you killed any of them yet or seen them while hunting?
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#3287024 - 07/09/13 10:24 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Wes Parrish]
Hollar Hunter
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
I've only had that scenario happen once and it was at 20 yds but when you see a very mature heavy horned buck next to a 3.5 that scores better the decision was easily made to shoot the old beast!

Side by side, I believe MOST hunters wouldn't even consider the B&C score of one buck vs. the other, as the massive mature antlers would "stand out" as the heavier rack, better "trophy" antlers.

Scores are for ball games.


I agree, I don't believe I even considered the other buck until after the shot when i started replaying back what had just happened... Mass whether it be body or rack command attention and both is just a no brainer!
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#3287651 - 07/10/13 03:26 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Hollar Hunter]
Phil1979
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#3287966 - 07/10/13 09:12 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Wes Parrish]
W.Seay
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Loc: Collierville,TN.

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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: Andy S.
You gotta love the older mature bucks and the character they bring to the table.

Yes, and to me, a fully mature buck with his unique and often massive antlers, is a much better "trophy" than a 2 1/2 or 3 1/2-yr-old buck that "scores" much higher on the B&C scoring system.

Say you see two bucks at a distance, one is a 150-class 10-point 3 1/2 with 4 1/2" bases and the typical long tines that adds 10 to 20 inches to his "score"; the other is a 130-class 8-point 5 1/2 with 6" bases and more average tine length: That 130-class mature buck will be the the one that "stands out" as a massive set of antlers, while you hardly notice the long tines on the younger buck.

So for me, "mass" trumps "score", and older trumps younger, in defining a trophy buck. The popular B&C scoring system over-values tine length while under-valuing overall "mass", while totally failing to recognize the value of maturity over luck (the luck of good antler genetics on a particular animal).


X2 Wes
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#3288993 - 07/11/13 08:27 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Zackman_06]
Boone 58
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Wow!!! studs!
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#3289253 - 07/12/13 07:54 AM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Bayou Buck]
wobblegobble
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Zachman, have you killed any of those monsters you post every year yet?
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#3289647 - 07/12/13 03:10 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Bayou Buck]
redheadshooter
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The second deer is 8 years old now?
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#3290184 - 07/13/13 09:14 AM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Bayou Buck]
REM7
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WOW is all I got
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