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#3285381 - 07/08/13 08:13 AM Re: Two good bucks [Re: hunter0925]
Andy S.
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You gotta love the older mature bucks and the character they bring to the table. The first buck may have the most mass I have ever seen on a free range buck in TN. Great pics, keep us updated on them throughout the year and best of luck with them this fall.
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#3285490 - 07/08/13 09:38 AM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Andy S.]
Wes Parrish
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Loc: Knoxville-Dover-Union City, TN

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 Originally Posted By: Andy S.
You gotta love the older mature bucks and the character they bring to the table.

Yes, and to me, a fully mature buck with his unique and often massive antlers, is a much better "trophy" than a 2 1/2 or 3 1/2-yr-old buck that "scores" much higher on the B&C scoring system.

Say you see two bucks at a distance, one is a 150-class 10-point 3 1/2 with 4 1/2" bases and the typical long tines that adds 10 to 20 inches to his "score"; the other is a 130-class 8-point 5 1/2 with 6" bases and more average tine length: That 130-class mature buck will be the the one that "stands out" as a massive set of antlers, while you hardly notice the long tines on the younger buck.

So for me, "mass" trumps "score", and older trumps younger, in defining a trophy buck. The popular B&C scoring system over-values tine length while under-valuing overall "mass", while totally failing to recognize the value of maturity over luck (the luck of good antler genetics on a particular animal).

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#3285569 - 07/08/13 11:09 AM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Bayou Buck]
RiverBuck10
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Registered: 11/25/09
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Zachman I love looking at your deer every year, they are not normal size deer for TN!! Those things look like fenced-in deer!! Absolute beasts!! I wouldn't sleep for months if I knew I had bucks like that in the woods!!!
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#3285613 - 07/08/13 11:50 AM Re: Two good bucks [Re: RiverBuck10]
Hollar Hunter
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Registered: 11/05/10
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I've enjoyed seeing these stud bucks you have every year! My question is have you killed any of them yet or seen them while hunting?
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#3285675 - 07/08/13 12:53 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Hollar Hunter]
tellico4x4
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Registered: 11/29/04
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Thanks for sharing!
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#3285832 - 07/08/13 04:21 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Bayou Buck]
DeerKiller2012
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Registered: 11/15/11
Posts: 761
Loc: Southern Middle TN

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Awesome deer !
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#3285990 - 07/08/13 08:19 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: DeerKiller2012]
ROUGH COUNTRY HUNTER
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Registered: 11/12/10
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Loc: FRANKLIN COUNTY

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nice bucks
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#3286058 - 07/08/13 09:18 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: ROUGH COUNTRY HUNTER]
Rackseeker
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Registered: 09/26/02
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Loc: Franklin County

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awesome bucks, do you ever kill any of the ones you get trail cam pics of?
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#3286099 - 07/08/13 09:54 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Rackseeker]
Zackman_06
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Registered: 07/23/07
Posts: 135
Loc: Franklin County,TN

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I've killed a couple in the past
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#3286615 - 07/09/13 01:52 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Wes Parrish]
Master Chief
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Registered: 10/11/11
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Loc: Henderson County

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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
[quote=Andy S.]Say you see two bucks at a distance, one is a 150-class 10-point 3 1/2 with 4 1/2" bases and the typical long tines that adds 10 to 20 inches to his "score"; the other is a 130-class 8-point 5 1/2 with 6" bases and more average tine length: That 130-class mature buck will be the the one that "stands out" as a massive set of antlers, while you hardly notice the long tines on the younger buck.


And the best part is a 3 1/2 150 is more than likely only going to get bigger..much bigger. Unfortunately, those are the deer most hunters, myself included, will not let reach full potential. They are the future B&C bucks. Of course, they're also VERY uncommon and I would be happy for any hunter who gets a young giant.
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