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#3285210 - 07/07/13 09:56 PM Two good bucks
Zackman_06
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Already have a couple good bucks showing up one is a buck i had last year with a drop tine looks like there will be no drop this year but his frame is bigger and his mass is still very impressive. The second buck is the big 8/9 that i have had on camera since he was a 3 year old in 2008. Both still have a lot of growing to do and some of my biggest deer haven't showed up till the end of july in past years.





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#3285212 - 07/07/13 09:57 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Zackman_06]
infoman jr.
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Those are going to be big...really big!
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#3285219 - 07/07/13 10:04 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: infoman jr.]
Master Chief
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Those will be awesome! Did they have long tines in previous years?

Edited by Master Chief (07/07/13 10:09 PM)
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#3285226 - 07/07/13 10:10 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Zackman_06]
Zackman_06
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#3285232 - 07/07/13 10:15 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Zackman_06]
Master Chief
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That first one is just pure awesomeness.. you better keep us updated and good luck!
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#3285248 - 07/07/13 10:40 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Master Chief]
gun nut
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Gonna be a good year
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#3285253 - 07/07/13 10:45 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: gun nut]
easy45
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Wow
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#3285266 - 07/07/13 11:01 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: easy45]
PinchPoint
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Awesome deer
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#3285269 - 07/07/13 11:04 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: PinchPoint]
hunter0925
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mass!!!!!
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#3285379 - 07/08/13 08:12 AM Re: Two good bucks [Re: hunter0925]
Bayou Buck
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That first buck is a beast!
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#3285381 - 07/08/13 08:13 AM Re: Two good bucks [Re: hunter0925]
Andy S.
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You gotta love the older mature bucks and the character they bring to the table. The first buck may have the most mass I have ever seen on a free range buck in TN. Great pics, keep us updated on them throughout the year and best of luck with them this fall.
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#3285490 - 07/08/13 09:38 AM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Andy S.]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Andy S.
You gotta love the older mature bucks and the character they bring to the table.

Yes, and to me, a fully mature buck with his unique and often massive antlers, is a much better "trophy" than a 2 1/2 or 3 1/2-yr-old buck that "scores" much higher on the B&C scoring system.

Say you see two bucks at a distance, one is a 150-class 10-point 3 1/2 with 4 1/2" bases and the typical long tines that adds 10 to 20 inches to his "score"; the other is a 130-class 8-point 5 1/2 with 6" bases and more average tine length: That 130-class mature buck will be the the one that "stands out" as a massive set of antlers, while you hardly notice the long tines on the younger buck.

So for me, "mass" trumps "score", and older trumps younger, in defining a trophy buck. The popular B&C scoring system over-values tine length while under-valuing overall "mass", while totally failing to recognize the value of maturity over luck (the luck of good antler genetics on a particular animal).

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#3285569 - 07/08/13 11:09 AM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Bayou Buck]
RiverBuck10
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Zachman I love looking at your deer every year, they are not normal size deer for TN!! Those things look like fenced-in deer!! Absolute beasts!! I wouldn't sleep for months if I knew I had bucks like that in the woods!!!
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#3285613 - 07/08/13 11:50 AM Re: Two good bucks [Re: RiverBuck10]
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I've enjoyed seeing these stud bucks you have every year! My question is have you killed any of them yet or seen them while hunting?
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#3285675 - 07/08/13 12:53 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Hollar Hunter]
tellico4x4
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Thanks for sharing!
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#3285832 - 07/08/13 04:21 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Bayou Buck]
DeerKiller2012
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Awesome deer !
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#3285990 - 07/08/13 08:19 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: DeerKiller2012]
ROUGH COUNTRY HUNTER
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nice bucks
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#3286058 - 07/08/13 09:18 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: ROUGH COUNTRY HUNTER]
Rackseeker
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awesome bucks, do you ever kill any of the ones you get trail cam pics of?
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#3286099 - 07/08/13 09:54 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Rackseeker]
Zackman_06
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I've killed a couple in the past
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#3286615 - 07/09/13 01:52 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Wes Parrish]
Master Chief
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
[quote=Andy S.]Say you see two bucks at a distance, one is a 150-class 10-point 3 1/2 with 4 1/2" bases and the typical long tines that adds 10 to 20 inches to his "score"; the other is a 130-class 8-point 5 1/2 with 6" bases and more average tine length: That 130-class mature buck will be the the one that "stands out" as a massive set of antlers, while you hardly notice the long tines on the younger buck.


And the best part is a 3 1/2 150 is more than likely only going to get bigger..much bigger. Unfortunately, those are the deer most hunters, myself included, will not let reach full potential. They are the future B&C bucks. Of course, they're also VERY uncommon and I would be happy for any hunter who gets a young giant.
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#3286628 - 07/09/13 02:19 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Wes Parrish]
Hollar Hunter
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: Andy S.
You gotta love the older mature bucks and the character they bring to the table.

Yes, and to me, a fully mature buck with his unique and often massive antlers, is a much better "trophy" than a 2 1/2 or 3 1/2-yr-old buck that "scores" much higher on the B&C scoring system.

Say you see two bucks at a distance, one is a 150-class 10-point 3 1/2 with 4 1/2" bases and the typical long tines that adds 10 to 20 inches to his "score"; the other is a 130-class 8-point 5 1/2 with 6" bases and more average tine length: That 130-class mature buck will be the the one that "stands out" as a massive set of antlers, while you hardly notice the long tines on the younger buck.

So for me, "mass" trumps "score", and older trumps younger, in defining a trophy buck. The popular B&C scoring system over-values tine length while under-valuing overall "mass", while totally failing to recognize the value of maturity over luck (the luck of good antler genetics on a particular animal).


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I've only had that scenario happen once and it was at 20 yds but when you see a very mature heavy horned buck next to a 3.5 that scores better the decision was easily made to shoot the old beast!
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#3286687 - 07/09/13 03:43 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Hollar Hunter]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
I've only had that scenario happen once and it was at 20 yds but when you see a very mature heavy horned buck next to a 3.5 that scores better the decision was easily made to shoot the old beast!

Side by side, I believe MOST hunters wouldn't even consider the B&C score of one buck vs. the other, as the massive mature antlers would "stand out" as the heavier rack, better "trophy" antlers.

Scores are for ball games.

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#3286947 - 07/09/13 08:57 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Hollar Hunter]
mathews338
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 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
I've enjoyed seeing these stud bucks you have every year! My question is have you killed any of them yet or seen them while hunting?
X2!

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#3287024 - 07/09/13 10:24 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Wes Parrish]
Hollar Hunter
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
I've only had that scenario happen once and it was at 20 yds but when you see a very mature heavy horned buck next to a 3.5 that scores better the decision was easily made to shoot the old beast!

Side by side, I believe MOST hunters wouldn't even consider the B&C score of one buck vs. the other, as the massive mature antlers would "stand out" as the heavier rack, better "trophy" antlers.

Scores are for ball games.


I agree, I don't believe I even considered the other buck until after the shot when i started replaying back what had just happened... Mass whether it be body or rack command attention and both is just a no brainer!
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#3287651 - 07/10/13 03:26 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Hollar Hunter]
Phil1979
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#3287966 - 07/10/13 09:12 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Wes Parrish]
W.Seay
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: Andy S.
You gotta love the older mature bucks and the character they bring to the table.

Yes, and to me, a fully mature buck with his unique and often massive antlers, is a much better "trophy" than a 2 1/2 or 3 1/2-yr-old buck that "scores" much higher on the B&C scoring system.

Say you see two bucks at a distance, one is a 150-class 10-point 3 1/2 with 4 1/2" bases and the typical long tines that adds 10 to 20 inches to his "score"; the other is a 130-class 8-point 5 1/2 with 6" bases and more average tine length: That 130-class mature buck will be the the one that "stands out" as a massive set of antlers, while you hardly notice the long tines on the younger buck.

So for me, "mass" trumps "score", and older trumps younger, in defining a trophy buck. The popular B&C scoring system over-values tine length while under-valuing overall "mass", while totally failing to recognize the value of maturity over luck (the luck of good antler genetics on a particular animal).


X2 Wes
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#3288993 - 07/11/13 08:27 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Zackman_06]
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Wow!!! studs!
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#3289253 - 07/12/13 07:54 AM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Bayou Buck]
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Zachman, have you killed any of those monsters you post every year yet?
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#3289647 - 07/12/13 03:10 PM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Bayou Buck]
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The second deer is 8 years old now?
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#3290184 - 07/13/13 09:14 AM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Bayou Buck]
REM7
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WOW is all I got
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#3291862 - 07/15/13 09:48 AM Re: Two good bucks [Re: Zackman_06]
deaddownwind
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Very nice. I want to see big mass daddy when you get him on the ground!
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