Tndeer Logo

Page 2 of 3 <123>
Topic Options
#3280315 - 07/02/13 06:57 AM Re: talk about double standards in the usa [Re: rabbit hunter]
Crappie Luck Moderator
Non-Typical


Registered: 01/29/03
Posts: 61010
Loc: Smith Co.

Offline
Q. When does a fetus become a baby?
A. When it is loved.
_________________________
"To find out who your real rulers are, simply look to those whom you CANNOT criticize..."
--Voltaire

Top
#3280342 - 07/02/13 07:23 AM Re: talk about double standards in the usa [Re: Crappie Luck]
Bottom Hunter
16 Point


Registered: 12/29/06
Posts: 16316
Loc: Hatchie Bottoms

Offline
In a case where both the mother and child are healthy and there seems to be no problem, then I agree that abortion is wrong.

When you start talking about unhealthy pregnancies, be it the child, the mother or both having issues, then sometimes we should take a closer look.

Another scenario might be rape victims. If your daughter , say is 12 years old and gets raped, should she be forced to carry the child to term and become a mom at 12? Would you make her do this and then put the child up for adoption or maybe raise the child yourself? When you looked at the child, would you think about the horrific experience that your daughter had to endure? How would this affect your daughter?

I'm not so sure what would be the best course of action under those circumstances?

What if your wife was pregnant and there was complications and you knew that she might die if she carried the child to term and the rest of your children would lose their mom and you would lose your wife.?

Lots of things to think about. Sometimes we have to be in those circumstances to know for sure what we would do. I have no idea what I would do. Do you?

Again, terminating a healthy pregnancy is wrong, imo.
_________________________
There are some people who always seem angry and continuously look for conflict.

Walk away; the battle they are fighting is not with you, but with themselves.

Top
#3280385 - 07/02/13 07:55 AM Re: talk about double standards in the usa [Re: Bottom Hunter]
EastTNHunter
10 Point


Registered: 03/08/10
Posts: 2895
Loc: Rhea Co., TN

Offline
 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
In a case where both the mother and child are healthy and there seems to be no problem, then I agree that abortion is wrong.

When you start talking about unhealthy pregnancies, be it the child, the mother or both having issues, then sometimes we should take a closer look.

Another scenario might be rape victims. If your daughter , say is 12 years old and gets raped, should she be forced to carry the child to term and become a mom at 12? Would you make her do this and then put the child up for adoption or maybe raise the child yourself? When you looked at the child, would you think about the horrific experience that your daughter had to endure? How would this affect your daughter?

I'm not so sure what would be the best course of action under those circumstances?

What if your wife was pregnant and there was complications and you knew that she might die if she carried the child to term and the rest of your children would lose their mom and you would lose your wife.?

Lots of things to think about. Sometimes we have to be in those circumstances to know for sure what we would do. I have no idea what I would do. Do you?

Again, terminating a healthy pregnancy is wrong, imo.


1. This still does not take the Baby's health into account
2. Define "healthy," as many think that if a child has down syndrome or other form of non-fatal abnormality then they are worthless, which is totally untrue
3. The rape example is tough, but adoption is an option if the emotional issue comes into play

4. And most importantly, these reasons for abortion account for less than 1% of all abortions performed, so they do not hold much weight, anyhow. They are jsut easy talking points to make people feel better about the big picture...


Edited by EastTNHunter (07/02/13 08:01 AM)

Top
#3280389 - 07/02/13 07:57 AM Re: talk about double standards in the usa [Re: WGK]
in the dog house!
14 Point


Registered: 11/29/12
Posts: 9377
Loc: west tn

content Online
 Originally Posted By: WGK
Abortion is 1000 % wrong.


100% agree


Only exception is if the mother's life is highly at risk.


Edited by in the dog house! (07/02/13 08:00 AM)
_________________________
Luck is where preparation and opportunity meet



Μολων λαβε

Top
#3280429 - 07/02/13 08:44 AM Re: talk about double standards in the usa [Re: Snake]
Hollar Hunter
8 Point


Registered: 11/05/10
Posts: 2229
Loc: TN

Offline
 Originally Posted By: Snake
 Originally Posted By: WGK
Abortion is 1000 % wrong.


I agree !


Fast track to hell!
_________________________

Spend your time where you get the most return on it...

Top
#3280464 - 07/02/13 09:25 AM Re: talk about double standards in the usa [Re: Hollar Hunter]
Deer Assassin
Non-Typical


Registered: 08/01/03
Posts: 87001
Loc: Kingston Springs

content Online
i think some you yall are missing the point of why i posted this


how can a woman terminate it and it is legal

but a man does it and it is murder
_________________________
Drag Racing

Spending money I dont have

on things I dont need

to impress people I dont know

Top
#3280469 - 07/02/13 09:27 AM Re: talk about double standards in the usa [Re: Deer Assassin]
Crappie Luck Moderator
Non-Typical


Registered: 01/29/03
Posts: 61010
Loc: Smith Co.

Offline
Where's a man's right to choose?
_________________________
"To find out who your real rulers are, simply look to those whom you CANNOT criticize..."
--Voltaire

Top
#3280495 - 07/02/13 09:54 AM Re: talk about double standards in the usa [Re: Crappie Luck]
BMan
16 Point


Registered: 02/06/06
Posts: 10562
Loc: Middle TN

Offline
 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
Where's a man's right to choose?

Where are the baby's rights? Those are the only ones that should be considered.
_________________________
Rules are for people who lose fights.

Top
#3280544 - 07/02/13 10:53 AM Re: talk about double standards in the usa [Re: Bottom Hunter]
Vermin93
12 Point


Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 5740
Loc: Dallas, TX & Signal Mtn, TN

Offline
 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
In a case where both the mother and child are healthy and there seems to be no problem, then I agree that abortion is wrong.

When you start talking about unhealthy pregnancies, be it the child, the mother or both having issues, then sometimes we should take a closer look.

Another scenario might be rape victims. If your daughter , say is 12 years old and gets raped, should she be forced to carry the child to term and become a mom at 12? Would you make her do this and then put the child up for adoption or maybe raise the child yourself? When you looked at the child, would you think about the horrific experience that your daughter had to endure? How would this affect your daughter?

I'm not so sure what would be the best course of action under those circumstances?

What if your wife was pregnant and there was complications and you knew that she might die if she carried the child to term and the rest of your children would lose their mom and you would lose your wife.?

Lots of things to think about. Sometimes we have to be in those circumstances to know for sure what we would do. I have no idea what I would do. Do you?

Again, terminating a healthy pregnancy is wrong, imo.


The things that you mentioned are not where the battle over abortion legislation has been fought, but they are subjects that liberals continually mention in order to deflect attention away from the reality of abortion. Democrats in Congress and in Texas have recently blocked Republican legislation that would prohibit the abortion of "healthy" babies after 20 weeks. This legislation came about because of the recent and horrific Kermit Gosnell trial. 20 weeks is 5 months. One would think that a woman should be able to "choose" before then. Yet, Democrats oppose a 5-month decision window. They want a 9-month one.

The position of abortion rights groups like NARAL and their Democrat allies in Congress and the White House is abortion on demand anytime from birth to conception regardless of the "health" of the baby and the mother. Ask these people at what point in a pregnancy abortion should be banned and you will either not get an answer or you will get the foggiest of answers. Nancy Pelosi is a recent example of a Democrat leader who was asked this question and dodged it. This position is not only well outside of mainstream America thinking on abortion, but I would argue it's extreme and sick. Yet, this is never brought up by the media or during political debates prior to elections. Instead, the focus is placed on the issues that you mentioned in order to paint the conservative/Republican candidate as the extremist on abortion.

Let me ask you or anyone this question - what is Obama's specific position on when abortion should be legal? Good luck finding an answer because he has never given a clear answer to that question and I'm not even sure the media has ever asked him.
_________________________
“The more I read and the more I listen, the more apparent it is that our society suffers from an alarming degree of public ignorance” - Retired Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor

Top
#3280549 - 07/02/13 11:02 AM Re: talk about double standards in the usa [Re: Vermin93]
Hunter 257W
10 Point


Registered: 10/04/12
Posts: 3183
Loc: Franklin County

Offline
The media won't try to pin osama down on anything controversial that might come back to bite him later. The love osama. They protect osama. Whatever osama says is right and good. Whatever osama says is for the common man. osama loves the poor and fights agains the evil rich conservatives.

Everything I said above is utter nonsense but unfortunately - unbelievably, it is for real and is happening.

Top
Page 2 of 3 <123>


Moderator:  RUGER, Unicam, gtk, Tennessee Todd, Lakeland Charlie, Cuttin Caller, CBU93, stretch, TurkeyBurd, MAN, Bobby G, Kimber45, Crappie Luck 
Hop to:
Top Posters
4105517
RUGER
87001
Deer Assassin
65406
BSK
61010
Crappie Luck
51376
spitndrum
Newest Members
Mik475, AaronB, Bad Wolf, jw3783, Jesse91
13279 Registered Users
Who's Online
101 registered (East TN Hunter, DntBrnDPig, redheadshooter, Bullfrog, hunter drew, stringtalker, 17 invisible) and 129 anonymous users online.
Forum Stats
13279 Members
42 Forums
93163 Topics
1088998 Posts

Max Online: 788 @ 11/11/13 08:06 PM
Moon Phase
CURRENT MOON
September
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30
Forum Donations
The TnDeer.Com Deer Talk Forum is for Tennessee Deer Hunters by Tennessee Deer Hunters. If you enjoy using our Talk Forum and would like to contribute to help in it's up-keep. Just submit your contribution by clicking on the DONATE button below and paying with PayPal or a major credit card. Any amount is much appreciated. Thanks for your support!

TN Burn Safe

Generated in 0.131 seconds in which 0.001 seconds were spent on a total of 14 queries. Zlib compression enabled.