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#3277832 - 06/28/13 02:23 PM Rare bird last seen in Britain 22 years ago......
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Rare bird last seen in Britain 22 years ago reappears - only to be killed by wind turbine in front of a horrified crowd of birdwatchers

There had been only eight recorded sightings of the white-throated needletail in the UK since 1846. So when one popped up again on British shores this week, twitchers were understandably excited.

A group of 40 enthusiasts dashed to the Hebrides to catch a glimpse of the brown, black and blue bird, which breeds in Asia and winters in Australasia.

But instead of being treated to a wildlife spectacle they were left with a horror show when it flew into a wind turbine and was killed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-twitchers.html
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#3277850 - 06/28/13 02:43 PM Re: Rare bird last seen in Britain 22 years ago...... [Re: Crappie Luck]
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Wow!

Good thing this bird wasn't killed by an oil company! That would have been tragic!

Wonder how this will play out in the UK?
Here in America, environmentalists seem to have little problem with all the endangered birds being killed by windmills, and even the EPA refuses to fine them (but they are very quick to fine an oil company for a single sparrow.)

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#3277943 - 06/28/13 04:26 PM Re: Rare bird last seen in Britain 22 years ago...... [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
Wow!

Good thing this bird wasn't killed by an oil company! That would have been tragic!

Wonder how this will play out in the UK?
Here in America, environmentalists seem to have little problem with all the endangered birds being killed by windmills, and even the EPA refuses to fine them (but they are very quick to fine an oil company for a single sparrow.)
What if it had flew into a pile of coal?

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#3278072 - 06/28/13 07:31 PM Re: Rare bird last seen in Britain 22 years ago...... [Re: iowavf]
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Of what if the limo Barack Obama was snorting coke and having gay sex in ran over the needletail?
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#3278099 - 06/28/13 08:18 PM Re: Rare bird last seen in Britain 22 years ago...... [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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Hey, as long as it wasn't big bird. ;\)
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#3278109 - 06/28/13 08:36 PM Re: Rare bird last seen in Britain 22 years ago...... [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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 Originally Posted By: Pic IN the Casa
Of what if the limo Barack Obama was snorting coke and having gay sex in ran over the needletail?


I thought the needletail was in the limo with the Kenyan. \:D
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#3278127 - 06/28/13 09:00 PM Re: Rare bird last seen in Britain 22 years ago...... [Re: Bambi Buster]
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A few points of correction. This is not a rare bird. In fact it is a common bird in its normal range. The rare occurance in Britain occurs when one gets lost or blown way off course. It would be like seeing a raven in west tennessee. Yes that bird is extremely rare, there, but not in its native range. The population of these birds was not devastated by this death that probably would have occurred anyway since this bird was on the opposite side of the continent totally out of its native range.

A prime example of propaganda used by anyone that is looking for any reason to oppose alternative energy sources.
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#3278322 - 06/29/13 08:37 AM Re: Rare bird last seen in Britain 22 years ago...... [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
A prime example of propaganda used by anyone that is looking for any reason to oppose alternative energy sources.

That may be in this case, and your point well taken.

I really don't think most people are opposed to seeking alternative energy sources, and I'm all for it myself. But some of us are opposed to the crony capitalism coming out of Washington (where elite politicians use OUR money to enrich their political allies), and federal laws being selectively enforced based on politics, i.e. for an example an oil company being heavily fined for killing a bird, while a windmill company kills them by the hundreds with impunity.

My issue is more with the crony capitalism and double-standards, as I'm all for pursuing alternative energy sources.

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#3278370 - 06/29/13 10:14 AM Re: Rare bird last seen in Britain 22 years ago...... [Re: Wes Parrish]
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It is awesome that the libs are getting a little taste of their own medicine.

EVERYTHING is politicized these days. If a conservative farts in public its front page news and a condemnation of their policies.

For far too long the left has been exempt from an honest debate or scrutiny about their policies and more importantly the RESULTS of those policies.

Im all for finding alternative energy sources BUT they have to be effective, affordable, and usable. Mugging the US citizen to funnel vast wealth to your political allies who then bankrupt the company and run off with the money is nothing more than Armed robbery on a grand scale.

Federal subsidies for private companies needs to end. The bank account is empty, the house is trashed and the party is over. Time for the grown ups to cancel the credit card and take control of the check book.
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#3278385 - 06/29/13 10:50 AM Re: Rare bird last seen in Britain 22 years ago...... [Re: fishboy1]
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Diehard makes a very good point. But I really don't see the article as lying or propaganda. The bird was rare, in Britain. Good chance it would've died anyway. I get it.

It'd be similar to seeing a penguin etc. in the Cherokee NF. Rare to us and not in it's natural habitat. It would've died anyway, perhaps.

Thousands of eagles die here in the states from alternative energy sources with no pitchforks raised. Enviro's are selective in their condemnation. That's what I'll walk away with from this thread.


Edited by preds1 (06/29/13 10:52 AM)

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#3278422 - 06/29/13 11:54 AM Re: Rare bird last seen in Britain 22 years ago...... [Re: preds1]
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Anybody else notice that if you take the government money out of the picture MOST problems go away?

Its highly lucrative to sue the government for environmental causes.

Its highly lucrative to lobby the government for "loans" special tax incentives, subsidies, and payouts.

If the government got out of the business of crony capitalism, (and excessive taxation and regulation) I am betting that an alternative energy supply would be developed within 15 years.

Instead of paying companies to "research" alternative energy, offer a prize for success.

Ex... First company to develop a car engine getting 65 mph with 115hp that is rated for a minimum of 100,000 miles "wins" a patent with 10 years of NO TAXES on the profits of the new development. That would create an incredible frenzy of innovation. Everybody wins. The company with the tax free patent will get enormous profits which can be paid out to share holders and put back into research.

Competing companies that didn't win will need to work HARDER to improve the existing technology and compete by marketing the "new better" engine.
Consumers get cars with better mileage. The nation/world gets an increase in efficiency and a lower net fuel demand lowering prices.
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