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#3277654 - 06/28/13 10:27 AM Re: Zimmerman Trial [Re: BamaProud]
Jcalder
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 Originally Posted By: BamaProud
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but It does seem that the people in this thread who think GZ is the guilty party admit they are not quite up to speed on the details outlined in the ongoing trial.

The media convicted GZ a year ago. He may indeed be guilty, I have changed my mind several times, but the more facts that come out, the more it looks like TM attacked GZ and was killed in self defense.

I just hope the public accepts the decision of the jury and it doesn't result in more violence.



I'm not questioning whether TM attacked GZ or not. I'm sure he did. The part that I don't know and I'm not sure anyone other than the 2 individuals know is what happened when GZ got off the phone with 911. Someone got shot but what happened in the moments leading up to that. If TM initiated it I still see some fault on GZ. If GZ initiated it I feel he's guilty 100%. Until all the facts come out the best we can do is speculate on what really happened. But I don't see all the facts coming out

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#3277672 - 06/28/13 10:46 AM Re: Zimmerman Trial [Re: Jcalder]
BamaProud
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 Originally Posted By: Jcalder

I'm not questioning whether TM attacked GZ or not. I'm sure he did. The part that I don't know and I'm not sure anyone other than the 2 individuals know is what happened when GZ got off the phone with 911. Someone got shot but what happened in the moments leading up to that. If TM initiated it I still see some fault on GZ. If GZ initiated it I feel he's guilty 100%. Until all the facts come out the best we can do is speculate on what really happened. But I don't see all the facts coming out


I don't understand how you can say you are sure TM attacked GZ, but GZ is still guilty. Guilty of what? Following someone? Asking them what they are doing? None of that is illegal.

I cant justifiably attack the next person I suspect is following me at Walmart or beat the crap out of someone if they ask me how my day is going.

If GZ confronted TM by punching him in the face, sure he is guilty of initiating a physical confrontation that led to murder, but thus far no evidence indicates that happened. Asking someone what they are doing, even in a confrontational/stern manner isn't justification for an all out physical attack.
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#3277676 - 06/28/13 10:50 AM Re: Zimmerman Trial [Re: BamaProud]
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GZ did not play the proper victim and ignore wrong doing. Therefor HE is part of the problem for "snitching". That is what I'm getting out of these suggestions.
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#3277680 - 06/28/13 10:55 AM Re: Zimmerman Trial [Re: Crappie Luck]
Jcalder
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I'm not against him following him and keeping an eye on him. But exiting the vehicle and going on a foot pursuit is more than he shod have done
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#3277686 - 06/28/13 11:07 AM Re: Zimmerman Trial [Re: Jcalder]
fishboy1
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Bogus argument which has changed several times as opinions have been refuted by facts.

Its obvious that an agenda is at play here.

There is no "right" to do what-ever you please, where-ever you please, when-ever you please, without question by anybody for any reason.

Did you know that the police have no "duty to protect" ? The police only have a duty to investigate and testify.

Another bad thought process of leaving everything to the government (police in this case) and being a helpless victim.

It is a sign of maturity to admit you are wrong. There is no shame in admitting that you came to a mistaken conclusion from incomplete/wrong facts. It IS an embarrassment of ego to refuse to reassess your opinion when new facts are presented.
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#3277690 - 06/28/13 11:11 AM Re: Zimmerman Trial [Re: fishboy1]
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I heard last night that our cursive-challenged witness was brought to the MARTINS HOUSE for questioning BY THE POLICE!!!!!

How shoddy is that?
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#3277700 - 06/28/13 11:20 AM Re: Zimmerman Trial [Re: Jcalder]
BamaProud
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 Originally Posted By: Jcalder
I'm not against him following him and keeping an eye on him. But exiting the vehicle and going on a foot pursuit is more than he shod have done


In your opinion. In others opinion, his actions were acceptable.

Opinions don't matter laws matter. In getting out of his truck, he didn't break any laws. Whoever initiated the physical attack broke the law and is therefore the guilty party.
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#3277757 - 06/28/13 12:33 PM Re: Zimmerman Trial [Re: BamaProud]
BamaProud
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Yet another witness on the stand that collaborates almost exactly what GZ told the police.

Edited by BamaProud (06/28/13 12:33 PM)
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#3277758 - 06/28/13 12:38 PM Re: Zimmerman Trial [Re: BamaProud]
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A prosecution's witness. We haven't even gotten to the defense yet and the prosecution has made their case.
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#3277783 - 06/28/13 01:01 PM Re: Zimmerman Trial [Re: Crappie Luck]
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I think the defense should motion for a directed verdict

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_verdict
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