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#3277042 - 06/27/13 01:38 PM Re: Why I support gay rights [Re: farmin68]
DirtyBear0311
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Registered: 09/01/12
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Alright folks, here it is. I put this post up initially because I value the opinions of the people on this site. Almost everyone on here generally has the same way of thinking that I do with the exception of this topic. And that is why I posted it so that I could get peoples feedback and re-evaluate what I think. So thank you everyone for responding to me and for the ensuing debate. Sorry if the topic was something that you didnt agree with and you thought it was stupid but none-the-less, it was what I thought and I wanted yalls opinion on it.


Well after reading every last post on here and doing a lot of thinking and a lot of praying I have come up with something. What I realized is that what I think in terms of the rights of people in this country dont mean squat. All that it really boils down to is that I am a Christian first and an American second. I will do my best to do Gods will in everything in life and supporting gays getting married is not His will (I think. I dont presume to know His will). I trust in Gods plan for me and for our country and I now realize that anything against His will is an attack on our country. I found it very interesting and informative about the whole "separation of church and state" thing that yall informed me of and that has also helped to shift my views. In the past ive been leading a life where I tried to keep God and my country separate as far as legal matters go but I now see where I was wrong in thinking that. I wholeheartedly believe that if this nation were to be one that truly acted as though we are of God (which we are) then we all would be so much better off. So [censored] the whole notion of "separation of church and state" and even if it were true, [censored] it anyways.

I know this is a long post and for those still with me, thank you. This is why I love this site and the people on it. Thank all of you for helping to influence me and get me back on the right path. I hope that none of yall think me any less for my original thoughts or treat me any different in the future. If you do well then ohh well I suppose. I wont worry myself too much with it. But either way, thanks again everyone.
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#3277047 - 06/27/13 01:46 PM Re: Why I support gay rights [Re: farmin68]
Kimber45 Moderator
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Registered: 07/10/08
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Good Lord I need my own Island!

I can tell you right now if I get it, Homo's, baby-killers, liberals, worthless, cheaters, unions, drug dealers, thugs of any race, gang bangers, politicians, lawyers, government - will NOT be allowed - That WILL be Law! Race wont matter! I will be in charge and if you don't like that - start swimming
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#3277048 - 06/27/13 01:48 PM Re: Why I support gay rights [Re: DirtyBear0311]
de novo
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Often times football coaches say they promote:
1. God,
2. Family,
3. Football (in that order).


Likewise, this country was founded on principles based on faith, love of country, and family. Gay marriage/ lifestyle directly undermines two of the three, IMO.
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#3277053 - 06/27/13 01:57 PM Re: Why I support gay rights [Re: stik]
Master Chief
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 Originally Posted By: stik
it is a non-issue with me. I really don't care and there are much more important matters to be concerned with.


x2

I'm glad they can do what they want..

Just because something is wrong in your eyes doesn't make it wrong. I believe it is wrong, but I'm not the most important person ever like you guys are.

PETA truely thinks hunting is wrong.. should it be outlawed because of what they think?


Stop whining and live life.
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#3277060 - 06/27/13 02:05 PM Re: Why I support gay rights [Re: Bottom Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
it seems like many Americans forgot where they live.....the home of the free.

thanks


What country are you living in? Free to what?

Free to form a conservative group without govt. persecution? - No
Free to defend yourself when your head is being beaten against a sidewalk? - NO
Free to send you children to public school without some pervert teaching them how to masturbate someone of the same sex? - NO
Free to serve in the military and be an "Openly Christian" without persecution- NO
Free to choose your own Dr and keep your healthcare - NO
Free to buy a 16 oz softdrink? - NO
Free to admit to using an UN PC term 26 years ago? - NO

I'm not sure what "FREE" you are talking about unless it's a FREE cell phone
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#3277061 - 06/27/13 02:07 PM Re: Why I support gay rights [Re: Crappie Luck]
pastorbmp
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Registered: 01/16/06
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
it seems like many Americans forgot where they live.....the home of the free.

thanks


What country are you living in? Free to what?

Free to form a conservative group without govt. persecution? - No
Free to defend yourself when your head is being beaten against a sidewalk? - NO
Free to send you children to public school without some pervert teaching them how to masturbate someone of the same sex? - NO
Free to serve in the military and be an "Openly Christian" without persecution- NO
Free to choose your own Dr and keep your healthcare - NO
Free to buy a 16 oz softdrink? - NO
Free to admit to using an UN PC term 26 years ago? - NO

I'm not sure what "FREE" you are talking about unless it's a FREE cell phone


Great Post!!!!! Freedom to liberals is a one way street. We are free to agree with them, but not free to believe, practice and proclaim what we believe.
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#3277064 - 06/27/13 02:08 PM Re: Why I support gay rights [Re: Master Chief]
Pic IN the Casa
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The problem is that they, homos, peta, aclu, fill in the liberal blank, DO want to owtlaw what they don't think is right.

I have not read a single post where anyone said we should outlaw homosexuality.
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#3277066 - 06/27/13 02:09 PM Re: Why I support gay rights [Re: Master Chief]
89cherokeelimited
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Registered: 08/13/11
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My only issue is in some public schools teachers are telling students that they can be curious about their sexuality.
They are pushing that because for years they taught sex education and everything was about a man and a woman.
If they keep it under wraps like the average married couple does good for them.
Most gay and lesbians have rallies and crap and they try to teach the young kids that it's ok to be gay.

My big reason for not wanting to make it legal is it then helps justify kids that's it ok to be gay.
I don't want my kids to go to hell because people are telling them it's ok to be gay, it's accepted.

As far as the PETA thing. They try their hardest to get hunting banned anywhere they can.
They can fight for their beliefs i'm going to fight for mine.

The reason obama got in office again... hundreds of thousands of christians sat back and said we don't need to argue and fight with them... then he got elected again.

If gays didn't make such a big deal about it, it wouldn't be an issue but they rally more than tree huggers used to.

So I fight for my beliefs just like they do.
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#3277067 - 06/27/13 02:10 PM Re: Why I support gay rights [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
89cherokeelimited
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Registered: 08/13/11
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 Originally Posted By: Pic IN the Casa
The problem is that they, homos, peta, aclu, fill in the liberal blank, DO want to owtlaw what they don't think is right.

I have not read a single post where anyone said we should outlaw homosexuality.


I think homosexuals being married and being able to have benefits should be banned but I know it won't happen these days.
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#3277072 - 06/27/13 02:16 PM Re: Why I support gay rights [Re: 89cherokeelimited]
preds1
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Registered: 10/16/09
Posts: 6375
Loc: Sumner County

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 Originally Posted By: 89cherokeelimited
 Originally Posted By: Pic IN the Casa
The problem is that they, homos, peta, aclu, fill in the liberal blank, DO want to owtlaw what they don't think is right.

I have not read a single post where anyone said we should outlaw homosexuality.


I think homosexuals being married and being able to have benefits should be banned but I know it won't happen these days.



"WASHINGTON -- The Defense Department said Wednesday it would immediately begin the process that will lead to providing benefits to the spouses of military servicemembers in same-sex marriages.

The announcement follows the Supreme Court ruling striking down part of a law that denied federal benefits to married same-sex couples.

"The Department of Defense intends to make the same benefits available to all military spouses -- regardless of sexual orientation -- as soon as possible," Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said in a prepared statement.

The benefits include medical care, housing allowance and internment at Arlington National Cemetery.

"We'll follow the law of the land and the law of the law has just changed," Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said at a Pentagon press briefing.

The Pentagon said it has not yet determined how much the changes will cost taxpayers."


Edited by preds1 (06/27/13 02:22 PM)
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