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#3275162 - 06/25/13 07:51 AM Primos Supercharged Blackout?
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Has anyone tried the Primos Truth Cam Supercharged Blackout?

Normally I shy away from any camera made by WGI or Primos, as these brand cameras have, in the past, been made cheaply with the lowest quality parts and least manufacturing quality control, leading to high camera failure rates. However, tests of the Truth Cam Supercharged Blackout show the unit's extra battery power produces amazing flash illumination distances--far more than any black-flash camera I've seen tested.

That's almost enough to tempt me into trying one. Almost...
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#3275166 - 06/25/13 07:57 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
That's almost enough to tempt me into trying one. Almost...

Not me.
New offerings of Chinese junk are like sucker punches.

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#3275172 - 06/25/13 08:02 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: BSK
That's almost enough to tempt me into trying one. Almost...

Not me.
New offerings of Chinese junk are like sucker punches.


You're so right Wes, but they keep teasing and tempting me! I know if I fall for it, I'll be sorry, but...
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#3275295 - 06/25/13 10:34 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: BSK]
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Hey, I heard Cuddeback has just come out with a new "No Flash" model with invisible flash that deer can't see! Comes with a completely newly engineered case and look you just can't resist! Perhaps you should get at least 4 of these? \:D
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#3275344 - 06/25/13 11:38 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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HA!!!

Yeah, I love those Cuddebacks!

Not...
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#3275378 - 06/25/13 12:14 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: BSK]
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Oh, come on. They can't all be bad. For goodness sakes, Jim Shockey uses them!
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#3275452 - 06/25/13 02:17 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: BlountArrow]
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Most of the time, when I see any new product "endorsed" by a celebrity hunter, their "endorsement" becomes my main reason for letting someone else be the sucker. If the products were really good, they wouldn't need to be paying some celebrity to endorse them.
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#3275464 - 06/25/13 02:38 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Just do like me and don't buy any, just take pictures after they're on the ground.
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#3275666 - 06/25/13 07:31 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
. . . . they keep teasing and tempting me!

What you need, BSK, is a genuine Leupold trail cam!
Leupold is renowned worldwide for their fine optics that are "Made in USA". (And Leupold is my "go-to" brand for rifle scopes.)

So when you see the name "Leupold" on a trail cam, don't you just drool to have one?!?! \:D

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#3275946 - 06/26/13 08:31 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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HA!!!

Good one Wes! Yeah, those Leupold trail-cams are made by the finest craftsmen in China (yes, that was written fully tongue-in-cheek).
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#3275980 - 06/26/13 09:16 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: BSK]
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I'm not sure how the TruthCam got a bad name, all of mine (TruthCam 35's) are awesome and the battery life is amazing. I can run it the entire season practically on one set of batteries. Pictures look good both day and night.
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#3276121 - 06/26/13 12:18 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: DntBrnDPig]
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 Originally Posted By: DntBrnDPig
I'm not sure how the TruthCam got a bad name...


Many, many people reporting many, many problems with Primos products.

But again, you may get some good units and absolutely love them.
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#3276144 - 06/26/13 12:52 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: BSK]
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Maybe I need to go play the lotto
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#3276448 - 06/26/13 08:12 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: DntBrnDPig]
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many people report problems with all products? so I guess you should never buy anything else with a review on it
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#3276595 - 06/26/13 11:55 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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BSK, I have not heard of the supercharged but I have the CR (close-range) version and it takes good daytime pics and battery life is great so far (2,000 pics with 85% battery on last pull). Night pics are blurry. I wonder how the supercharged version is with night time focus.
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#3276668 - 06/27/13 06:49 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
BSK, I have not heard of the supercharged but I have the CR (close-range) version and it takes good daytime pics and battery life is great so far (2,000 pics with 85% battery on last pull). Night pics are blurry. I wonder how the supercharged version is with night time focus.


In chasingame reviews of the cams, I noticed blurry night pics on other Primos products. But the night pics on their test Supercharged were amazing.

http://www.chasingame.com/index.php?id=297
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#3276672 - 06/27/13 06:52 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: knightrider]
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 Originally Posted By: knightrider
many people report problems with all products? so I guess you should never buy anything else with a review on it


It isn't that a few problems have been reported, but a HUGE number of problems reported. Best estimates are, some of these companies have over a 30% return rate of cameras sold. That's way beyond acceptable. I don't know how manufacturers with such poor quality control can stay in business, other than just extraordinary demand for the type of product they are selling, which is the case with trail-cams.
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#3276698 - 06/27/13 07:29 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: BSK]
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I've experienced a greater than 30% failure rate (if you consider run-away triggering quickly filling a card a failure, if you consider the date reverting back to 01/01/xyear a failure, if you consider white-out and pink pics a failure, etc.) with a variety of recent Bushnell models.

Yet my biggest disappointment has been with Cuddeback and Uway.
Over about a 2-yr period, I experienced a 100% failure rate on six (6) Uway cams. And in the case of the Uways, "failure" meant totally not working at all on 4 of 6 (with the other 2 "sometimes" working, "sometimes" not, "always" unreliable). I started out with 2 Uways. The other 4 were warranty replacements, all 6 of which failed within the first few weeks of use.

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#3277582 - 06/28/13 08:12 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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I experienced 100% failure on 6 Cuddebacks within a year. Their customer service was no help. If I could buy 100 of them at $1 a piece right now I'd pass. RecoynX will spoil you quick.

Edited by Mike Belt (06/28/13 08:12 AM)
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#3277710 - 06/28/13 11:26 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: Mike Belt]
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 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
. . . . . Cuddebacks . . . . . If I could buy 100 of them at $1 a piece right now I'd pass.

Mike, I share your sentiments.
Although I might give $1 apiece just to use them for target practice. That would be about the only way I could FEEL better about Cuddebacks. \:\)

Ironically, the earlier models of Cuddebacks were (at the time) among the best of both 35mm film and digital cams made. I still have some of their 35mm film cams that still work great if one doesn't mind being limited to 24-36 pics and processing film. (I also have one of the 1st Cuddeback digital cams that still works.) Seems it was the year they came out with the "NO Flash" model that everything went downhill with Cuddeback.

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#3278255 - 06/29/13 06:25 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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What are best trail cams to get
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#3278265 - 06/29/13 07:02 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: CountryBoy053]
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 Originally Posted By: CountryBoy053
What are best trail cams to get


If you can afford them (and most can't) Reconyx and BuckeyeCam are the most reliable. After that, it's all a crapshoot.
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#3278465 - 06/29/13 12:58 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: BSK]
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I have been pleased with my homebrews, although you're not going to find them for sale at Bass Pro or Wal-mart (as they are custom handmade using real Sony cameras).

My personal dilemma is only wanting to go with true blackflash on any new cams, refusing to buy another cam made in China, and not being able to justify the expense of a Reconyx. I think the blackflash technology is becoming more available in the homebrew arena, and probably need to be following up on that.

I keep hoping that some reputable commercial trail cam makers (such as Reconyx) will improve their image quality and reduce their prices (much like regular Nikon & Sony cameras). So far, that's been somewhat a pipe-dream, as Reconyx has continued it's 3.1 mp imager for years (with no price change), yet I can go buy a feature-rich 18 mp Nikon camera for a fraction the cost of a 3.0 mp camera a few years ago.

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#3279238 - 06/30/13 07:25 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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I've owned several different brands but the primos truth cam 35 is the best by far that I've owned!!!! Great pics and great battery life.
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#3280161 - 07/01/13 09:13 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: redhunterZ71]
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I love the dlc covert black 60 and at $130 in my opinion it just can't be beat, they are extremely reliable
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#3285508 - 07/08/13 10:00 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: W.Seay]
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Unfortunately, I'm reading some really bad early reviews of this camera. And that's too bad, as I had high hopes for it.
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#3285531 - 07/08/13 10:20 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: BSK]
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What u talkin about, Willis? Which can?
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#3285596 - 07/08/13 11:36 AM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
What u talkin about, Willis? Which can?


The Primos Supercharged Blackout.
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#3285686 - 07/08/13 01:02 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
What u talkin about, Willis? Which can?


The Primos Supercharged Blackout.

Your timing made it "appear" you might be referring to the dlc covert black 60. \:\) Thanks for the clarification.

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#3285692 - 07/08/13 01:07 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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I see that now!
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#3285907 - 07/08/13 06:16 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: BSK]
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Any word on the regular EL Ultra Blackout? I know the range isn't great, but I would like a few black flash cameras to put on the TR or corn pile. Amazon has them for $170. I do like the fact that Primos can't be opened when used with a python cable. I have two of the primos red flash and do not expect them to work perfectly out of the box. They gave me huge fits last year when i bought them but once i formatted the sd cards and dedicated them to the primos, they work fine.
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#3285921 - 07/08/13 06:40 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: Ahuntin1]
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I haven't seen a review of those yet Ahuntin1.
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#3285935 - 07/08/13 07:08 PM Re: Primos Supercharged Blackout? [Re: BSK]
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Thanks BSK. If I hurry up and do buy it, I'll have enough time to sort the bugs out and see what its worth.
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